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DPPt/HGSS I need help with the moves
- Thread starter manuel13
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Before moves I must ask: Why three flying types on one team, all of which are vulnerable to ice? And two who are x4 to it? Anyways, I won't rip on Pokemon choices.
Here is my input, feel free to rip it apart. Is it in-game or competitive? Consider reading Plapti's ever so handy Guide to A Competitive Team.
Salamence
Adamant/Jolly
Dragon Claw (STAB)
Aerial Ace (STAB, never misses)
Flamethrower/Fire Fang/Brick Break (for Ice types)
Dragon Dance (+ Attack and Speed)
Blaziken @ Shell Bell
Adamant/Jolly
Blaze Kick/Fire Punch/Flare Blitz (STAB though Flare Bliitz causes recoil damage)
Sky Uppercut/Brick Break (STAB)
Night Slash (psychics)
Rock Slide/Stone Edge (flyings)
Lapras
Modest/Brave
Surf/Water Pulse (STAB, Special)/Waterfall (Physical)
Ice Beam (Special)/Avalanche(Physical, hence Brave nature)
Psychic/Thunderbolt/Body Slam/Perish Song
Psychci/Thunderbolt/Body Slam/Perish Song
(Sorry, not much help for the two other moves >
Here is my input, feel free to rip it apart. Is it in-game or competitive? Consider reading Plapti's ever so handy Guide to A Competitive Team.
Salamence
Adamant/Jolly
Dragon Claw (STAB)
Aerial Ace (STAB, never misses)
Flamethrower/Fire Fang/Brick Break (for Ice types)
Dragon Dance (+ Attack and Speed)
Blaziken @ Shell Bell
Adamant/Jolly
Blaze Kick/Fire Punch/Flare Blitz (STAB though Flare Bliitz causes recoil damage)
Sky Uppercut/Brick Break (STAB)
Night Slash (psychics)
Rock Slide/Stone Edge (flyings)
Lapras
Modest/Brave
Surf/Water Pulse (STAB, Special)/Waterfall (Physical)
Ice Beam (Special)/Avalanche(Physical, hence Brave nature)
Psychic/Thunderbolt/Body Slam/Perish Song
Psychci/Thunderbolt/Body Slam/Perish Song
(Sorry, not much help for the two other moves >
Yes. Pidgeot, Salamence, and Tropias are all flying, and yes, Salamence and Topias will recieve X4 damage for ice.
Thank you for your observation but I was pointing out the flaw in three flyers and asking why manuel13 has three of them.
Anyways, I've looked at Tropius and come up with this:
Tropius @ Wise Glasses, or something to help with Sp. Attack
Air Slash
Energy Ball
Silver Wind
Hidden Power [rock/fire/steel/fighting]
Or:
Tropius @ Leftovers
Timid/Modest
SolarBeam
Sunny Day
Hidden Power [fire] (added damage because of strong sunlight)
Air Slash
For this set, it should have the ability Solar Power which multiplies its Sp. Attack by 1.5 when the sun is shining but causes damage.
Also, Lapras, for an Attack based moveset:
Lapras @ Leftovers
Adamant/Brave
Waterfall
Avalanche
Dragon Dance
Body Slam/Perish Song/Safeguard
Ruko
Bearded Trout Warrior
Unless Tropius is going to be your leadoff pokemon, I will have to suggest against the sunny day moveset...
if the weather can't help out someone you switch in, [in the even Tropius gets KOed] it will more than likely be turned against you.
If nothing else, try to keep Blaziken/Salamence alive to make the best use of it...
if the weather can't help out someone you switch in, [in the even Tropius gets KOed] it will more than likely be turned against you.
If nothing else, try to keep Blaziken/Salamence alive to make the best use of it...
Yeah, if you're using sunny day with a grass Pokemon, you'll likely end up battling a fire-type. It can be used against you. And remember, sunny day doubles all fire attacks, so you might as well have a team full of grass types.
Oh, well, I saw the question mark and assumed you were asking.
Well, for Arcanine, I suggest Solarbeam for those pesky water types. Perhaps a Sunny Day, but I'm not sure how often you'd use it, so think it over.
I like a full physical sweeper Arcanine like this:
Thunder Fang
Flare Blitz/Flamewheel/Fire Fang
Extremespeed
Crunch/Iron Tail
Arcanine doesn't have the best physical movepool but it's definitely improved which is great because its attack is a little better than its special attack. Thunder Fang to cover water types; Flare Blitz, Flamewheel, or Fire Fang for STAB; Extremespeed is powerful and an awesome priority move; Crunch for more coverage, Iron Tail to cover rock types.
Thunder Fang
Flare Blitz/Flamewheel/Fire Fang
Extremespeed
Crunch/Iron Tail
Arcanine doesn't have the best physical movepool but it's definitely improved which is great because its attack is a little better than its special attack. Thunder Fang to cover water types; Flare Blitz, Flamewheel, or Fire Fang for STAB; Extremespeed is powerful and an awesome priority move; Crunch for more coverage, Iron Tail to cover rock types.
For Sceptile, its always bugged me, Charizard too, that they made their Special higher but both have great Physical move pools. Anyways...
I could see it as a sweeper mostly because it has high Speed and not-to-good defenses.
Sceptile
Adamant
Leaf Blade
Rock Slide (flying, ice, bug, and fire)
Night Slash/X-scissor/Brick Break/Swords Dance/ThunderPunch(move tutor in Emerald)
Aerial Ace (other grasses)
Or:
Sceptile
Modest/Timid
Energy Ball/Giga Drain
Focus Blast
Dragon Pulse
Hidden Power [rock]
Grr, I feel horrible at this...Oh well.
I could see it as a sweeper mostly because it has high Speed and not-to-good defenses.
Sceptile
Adamant
Leaf Blade
Rock Slide (flying, ice, bug, and fire)
Night Slash/X-scissor/Brick Break/Swords Dance/ThunderPunch(move tutor in Emerald)
Aerial Ace (other grasses)
Or:
Sceptile
Modest/Timid
Energy Ball/Giga Drain
Focus Blast
Dragon Pulse
Hidden Power [rock]
Grr, I feel horrible at this...Oh well.
This is my personal favourite moveset for Sceptile:
Sceptile @ Petaya Berry
Modest
- Energy Ball
- Dragon Pulse
- Leech Seed
- Substitute
Substitute to avoid status and whatnot, and to activate Petaya Berry as well. Leech Seed will help regen the health back lost by Substitute, although unfortunately you may not get much use out of Overgrow this way. I think Leech Seed's beneficial effects offset that completely, but that's me. Energy Ball and Dragon Pulse for attack moves. Only bad thing about using this set is it will require breeding a new Sceptile from scratch, since Leech Seed has to be bred onto Treecko.
If you can't/don't want to breed a new one (don't blame you if you don't want to - it's very tedious) then MarineMilotic's movesets are by far your best option, especially since the Substitute/Leech Seed set can be a bit awkward to use if you're not used to it.
Sceptile @ Petaya Berry
Modest
- Energy Ball
- Dragon Pulse
- Leech Seed
- Substitute
Substitute to avoid status and whatnot, and to activate Petaya Berry as well. Leech Seed will help regen the health back lost by Substitute, although unfortunately you may not get much use out of Overgrow this way. I think Leech Seed's beneficial effects offset that completely, but that's me. Energy Ball and Dragon Pulse for attack moves. Only bad thing about using this set is it will require breeding a new Sceptile from scratch, since Leech Seed has to be bred onto Treecko.
If you can't/don't want to breed a new one (don't blame you if you don't want to - it's very tedious) then MarineMilotic's movesets are by far your best option, especially since the Substitute/Leech Seed set can be a bit awkward to use if you're not used to it.