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Probably right, I need to rewatch the arc.


Not in base form. He didn't even try against Shizuka (Which if they are reflections of Jiraiya and the previous village head...doesn't paint the best picture for her people.)


.....and he only beat Pain cause of Hinata. And intel from the village, and Pain being handicapped by just using a justu destroying village keeping his main body out of the fight at first. 


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