Re: Day Six (August 25th-26th): Delayed
OK let's do this thing
First off, Cody, if I had a vendetta against Belle I wouldn't have changed my vote against her to Mr.RMA; I'd have followed through with that. The fact she wasn't lynched was (hence) partly my fault. You have to wonder, also, why
both Mafia families targeted her. Who else could have voiced against her?
I wasn't the only one who didn't like what Belle had been saying. To quote Ked:
Ked on Day Five said:
I find Belle the most suspicious right now. Like Shiny said, she suggested four people without giving any evidence other than that they were quiet, and then she chose to lynch me instead of Rolly, who turned out to be mafia. I'm assuming that Belle is part of the same mafia family that Rolly was, and was trying to make herself look innocent by posting possible mafia members, and then voting for me to try and save Rolly, while making everyone else suspicious of me.
Dia accused Belle in Day Three before she was accused. Bele then made it very clear that they were not working together. Since there are two Mafia families, it is quite possible that Belle could be Mafia, and just be in a different family then Dia was. Belle could've been innocent before, but converted by Chad, too. Belle has been one of the most trusted players in this game so far, so it would've been a smart move on Chad's part to make Belle mafia instead of a towns person.
And quoting Shiny:
Shiny on Day Five said:
Belle, in particular, for a few reasons. One, she mentioned that we should lynch some of the “quiet people”, though she provided little to no proof for why she thought any of the four people she mentioned was mafia. Then, when I and a few others lynched Rolly, who was on her list, she came out and went after Ked. Up until then, Ked hadn't really been seriously accused, and Ked herself failed to post that day.
So my accusing of Belle does not make me the only suspicious one. Ked anyway was at
least as vehement as I was. Either Ked or Shiny could have attacked her - they both could have! - or it
could still be someone else.
Secondly, Dark,
DarkSpyro97 said:
As shiny previously said, Cycloneblaze has made small post just like me and so far he has been thought as innocent but giving a huge speech of each of the remaining people after been a bit quiet does make him look a bit suspicious. I won't jump on the bandwagon to lynch you as I would like to see what you have to say in your defense.
I don't think making a big post like that is a bit suspicious. Tell me
how it could be so. I'm just saying - that's not much of an accusation to make, that I made a bigger post. And you're still kinda suspicious - you defended Rolly earlier, so you could be in his Mafia family.
Thirdly (I'm typing these as I think of 'em) what about Myth Busted? He posted on Day Five thusly:
Myth on Day Five said:
Oh, no.
This can't be good. Yes, we got another mafia, but... no, this is bad, bad, BAD.
I ain't going to accuse now, as everything's now gotten much harder, but I'll be reading with the utmost caution and I'll use my not-so-great powers of deduction to form a probably-wrong accusation in the near future.
Stay tuned.
He seemed rather confident, in not his words but his manner, and yet he is still to post again. I still think he's a bit shifty. I am still tuned, Myth!
Also I'm rather alarmed at how you guys seem content to follow Shiny's accusation's and example. I'm gonna say this - she is suspicious. I bet if she'd voted to lynch someone else you'd have ignored me. She's got trust - which is a deadly weapon in the wrong hands. If she was Mafia I'm not sure you guys'd realise, which makes her dangerous IMO. She could easily have been the one converted; consider this extract:
Shiny on Day Five said:
Of course, Chad could be playing a smart game and chose her[Belle], but eh, I don't think that's very likely. I think that it'll be more likely to choose one of the quieter voices in the game, because most of us would think that he chose a louder voice, right? ^^;
Who's the loudest voice in the game anymore (and at that point? and was loud beforehand?)
Shiny! As she's trusted, if she wasn't already Mafia she could now use the trust she has to direct her attacks at townspeople who, not knowing who's who, would follow her reasoning - because it's easier. We don't exactly have major players left here anymore. I think it's really just Cody, Ked, her, me. I know beforehand I followed along with everyone else because it was easier to do and they seemed to be right. But if they are wrong? If they
were I don't know if I'd have turned around and accused them of being Mafia. Of course I intend to make my own decisions (to start with anyway) now and I know Shiny is wrong in accusing me as Mafia - and I'm telling her that.
Also every day other than yesterday and today Shiny accused people who were Mafia - no townspeople. (Except on Day One but no-one really had any evidence against Savichez anyway.) I managed to not notice on the end of Day Two that it was already past the deadline and Shiny kindly pointed it out to me without accusing me. I feel like today, she'd use that as ammunition (it was an honest mistake btw).Today and yesterday she attacked a townsperson - Mr.RMA, and me. She started this (as in accused first) both times. I, for example (it's easier to use me as an example because I know my posts better) only switched to vote for Mr.RMA after I felt he'd made an incriminating mistake. And I am not voting to lynch
myself. But this says now that she's attacking townspeople where she wasn't before, which means she could have been the one converted. (She could also be merely losing her edge?) Consider again the above quote from her - that could be considered a sly defending of herself, and attack of the weaker players who are more likely to be townspeople. Chad could be more likely to choose a quieter person because they'd be overlooked, but would also be likely to choose a louder player because they'd be a good asset, what with no-one suspecting them, four days worth of innocent posts, etc. Shiny's not suspected by anyone else that I've seen, either.
There's Setoshi, who should have died due to the Inactivity Rule. I actually would interpret the rules as saying that even if they vote as a Mafia they'd still be killed for not posting in the thread. But considering Data being really bad at updating this I wouldn't be surprised if he was overlooked. (no offense though Data)
I'll also point out I'm not suspicious of Cody right now. I just don't think he catches my eye. He is as of now accusing me though. =/
Ked I also am not suspicious of. She hasn't contributed a lot, and should more since we need more active people of those who are left, but she was better at that last day. She hasn't posted yet today though.
I'm worried that after our good run so far, we're going to turn to attacking our own. (like me D=) Or that we'll end up shooting in the dark and hoping we hit a Mafia. Consider this scenario: I am lynched today, and, as a townsperson, this puts our numbers down one to six (total). The two Mafia each kill a townsperson, bringing us to four. Next day another townsperson is lynched...
and we lose, because there is at most one townsperson left, and they would inevitably die. Now we could very easily fall to that, and after our good run so far I'd hate to see us lose...which is why you shouldn't start by lynching me!
As for who I'll vote for, I am stopping this thing now before it turns into a bandwagon, which is a collection of people who are going along with the first to accuse (or it has been so far, today you guys are re-using Shiny's arguments or saying "I'll just side with her"). You should not just look at the one first accused. Look at each other. Look at yourselves.
Lynch Shiny.