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Partner/Companion Pokémon are absolutely disgusting.

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Yoshi Star Shine

Previously Moo Moo
Hello I find all partner/companion Pokémon disgusting becouse I believe companion/partner animals that trust you alot should be illegal.
I believe birds should just stay in a cage and eat food, drink water and fly around
Or even better: be out in the wild were they belong!.

Dogs are fine as long as they are only trained to protect the house and family from bad people, sit when told and herd sheep or to lead the blind and dogs should not do dog racing, dog fighting, dog shows, illegal breeding or hunting.
Cats are fine if they are not made for cat shows, illegal fighting, illegal breeding or hunting.
Fish should just stay in their tank and only interact with humans on vet visits and transportation.
Ferrets should just stay in a cage and only have human interaction if needed same goes for all rodents aswel.
Ants, spiders, caterpillars and snails should stay in the wild where they belong.

Animals should not become a companion to humans, they should just be somthing to watch or somthing to protect the house.

What I am saying is that if I made a Pokémon game
There would be no friendship or affection and the pokemon would be referred as Pokémon or pets
Never as companion or partner Pokémon.


Previously DreamyVictini
Well, the "partner Pokémon" thing was only a gimmick for the Let's Go games. It was never intended to make it a real feature. But, if anything, it helps people bond with their Pokémon, which is a good thing.

I agree on you about the bird part, but there is one problem. Most caged birds are domesticated, so they might have a hard time living in the wild.

And sure, illegal fighting, breeding and hunting is bad. But as the name implies, they're illegal. People shouldn't do it, but they do. It's against the laws. And it's not like every dog or cat owner makes them fight...

If animals are only used for protecting the house and such, they are literally slaves to people. And, most dogs protect the house for affection, to show their love to their owner. So if the owner doesn't care for them, they just might do a worse job.

Finally, friendship and bonding with your Pokémon is a big part if the game. That's why there are Pokémon that evolve by friendship. That's why there are moves like Return or Frustration. Hell, even Mega Evolutions occur when the Pokémon and the trainer have a strong bond. Taking away such a big aspect of the games would be a mistake.
I wholeheartedly disagree. Animals and Pokemon are very different from one another in terms of their intelligence level and the culture surrounding them from the two worlds (one is fictional and one is real, obviously).

The Pokemon Universe is completely different from the real world, and many Pokemon have the same intelligence of small children to adults with Ph.Ds. Keeping Pokemon in cages actually makes them feel like they are tools or slaves or it turns them into mindless weapons of destruction, and they will literally kill the people holding them or run away because they are just trying to get away from the abuse if they are aware of it (which most Pokemon are). Real animals should be loving companions for people because of the many health benefits that affect animals and people. Animals help to protect people and their property if treated correctly, but they really shouldn't be kept to be in a standard that you say. Yes, it is the most common standard, but it may not be a standard that all animals fit. I have seen ferrets and birds become service animals, and falcons and other birds of prey used for falconry and helping to clear the airport from ducks and other birds that may get caught in the engine of the plane.

Animals are really helpful and shouldn't be confined to just doing the basic things us humans consider them to do, and it is quite selfish to think that way that everything that animals do should only be to help us humans and not grow a bond. The animal will feel the bond on their side anyway and they will generally behave better if there is that special bond that they feel between their human and themselves. They will love their humans unconditionally, but only if we nurture that kind of behavior. Have you seen what abuse does to an animal? It's okay to put them in kennels or cages, but let them roam free for a bit.

I have also been studying Pokemon for nearly 16 years. It's a child's game meant to inspire creativity and imagination in kids, as well as give them a world where amazing creatures can wield elemental powers and travel the world with their humans. Many Pokemon look up to their trainers, but the same could be said for trainers looking up to their Pokemon. Pokemon like Alakazam, Metagross, and Slowking are comparable in intelligence to people with Ph. Ds or super computers and shouldn't be trifled with. Kids want this world because they get to have awesome adventures with their favorite and powerful Pokemon. What I don't understand is why Pokemon should be kept in cages or only help in protecting people's property. That seems very selfish to think about, especially if these creatures are smarter than humans.

Contrary to what everyone thinks, Pokemon isn't meant to instill children with the knack for making animals fight in the real world (unless you give a kid a Pokemon game who is below the age of 5, but I was given a Pokemon game at the age of 5 and I think making animals fight is horrible). In fact, most of those battles you see in the anime or games are mock battles, so the Pokemon don't actually get that hurt to the point of near death. They fight until exhausted, and even though fights of any kind of animal is illegal in the real world, it isn't in the Pokemon world because of their different views. Plus, most Pokemon want to fight for their trainers anyway, so why keep them from that pleasure of fighting for the glory of themselves and/or their trainers or train themselves to become better?

Pokemon and animals in the real world have the same feelings we feel. They can feel shame, embarrassment, sadness, depression, joy, anger, happiness, surprise, they can snap in anger, and they can understand emotions far better than we humans can. So why put them in a spot where they can't possibly grow and be better versions of themselves? Yes, they are just animals, but they are a lot like us than we think. They are just more rooted in their instincts than we are of ours.

My mom and I have "pet" spiders in our house that roam around. They are still wild and we never really tamed them, but we help give them food when they haven't got any nourishment, yet. It doesn't make them lazy if we feed them once a week or every few days, as we get their food stuck in their webs anyway and they go to town. I also had a caterpillar as a pet and I loved that little guy. Had to let him fly away when he became a butterfly, but every now and then for a week, I would see the same butterfly fly around our backyard, almost as if it's saying hi. There have also been animals that people have saved (squirrels, birds, and more) that weren't domesticated and yet those animals stay by their homes and hang out with the humans that saved them when they weren't relocated to another location far away from their savior's house.

Also, thinking that animals are only there for people to watch and protect their property... I'm sorry, but that mindset disgusts me. Since you were so open with your opinion, I'm going to be open with mine, too. Everyone has their reasons for thinking the way they do, but that doesn't mean I won't like it.

StellarWind Elsydeon

Armblades Ascendant
Staff member
Axiom one: Humans are animals. They aren't special in any way beyond what they've told themselves to justify a lot of the shit they've done over millennia. Humans interact with other species just like other species interact with other species. Humans are also aggressively social creatures and tend to bond with pretty much everything. So on occasion, weird symbiotic relationships form. The way your post was phrased makes me quite glad that you dislike the notion of companion animals, because people with your sort of mindset on this matter should never, under any circumstances, have pets or be responsible to the health and welfare of any other living being.

Axiom two: Comparing Pokemon to Animals is a false equivalence. Most, if not all Pokemon species appear to possess near-human, if not human, degrees of sentience and sapience and all of it relates directly to how the relationships between these species are already portrayed. You could sit and debate the moral implications of the fact they still have animal-like ecosystems, complete with predator/prey relationships (let alone the fact that the lack of actual animals means that it's quite likely that some species of Pokemon are actually eaten by humans as well - and I wouldn't be surprised if the opposite were true either), or of Competitive Pokemon Training/Breeding/Eugenics Lite until you're blue in the face - but canonical evidence seem to indicate that Pokemon are very much capable of making their own choices, that they enjoy testing their strength and skill against each other and that they would not battle for someone they do not respect. The bonding is already there between various species, the cooperation and trust between humans and Pokemon are what allowed the Pokemon world to develop the way it did... and you can't just disregard it because you have particular views about Earth animals.

Merciless Medic honestly brought up a lot of other points that I could have brought up, so in the interest of not repeating ourselves, I'm going to put this thread out of its misery... like most of your threads had to be, so far. To your credit at least you haven't degenerated into nonsensical prattle about how swimming in clothing is tantamount to child abuse this time - but considering your behaviour patterns on this website so far, I find it difficult to determine whether they are troll-bait or a genuine cry for help.

Either way, tread carefully.
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