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Super Smash Bros. - The Seven Maidens (RP Discussion/Sign-Ups)

What Did You Do To Snoke?

Previously Ratbag the Coward
Yes, the Cabal is Eggman's faction. No, it's not an acronym.

I planned Mewtwo to be mostly a chaotic neutral character with him allying with the Cabal for his own reasons, later joining Viridi and the others that turn traitor to the Cabal. K.Rool's role could work, and out of the regular villains I think Giovanni's the best. Although... there is Necrozma...
With these legendary Pokemon...what's the rule about using them in general rps? We don't need approval for them? Necrozma is a bit OP and a bit hard to rp as: would Necrozma talk?
 
Legendary Pokemon are available to use without admin permission in general RPs. And I'm not sure if Necrozma would talk or not. Can he talk in USUM?
Rohan, the dog and duck are yours. The gunsman is probably with them as well though.
And thanks, Rhythm.
 

What Did You Do To Snoke?

Previously Ratbag the Coward
I haven't played USUM, no. Didn't consider it worth it.
If he is a psychic-type, then he could theoretically communicate through telepathy like Mewtwo right?
Well, first of all, you should play USUM. There are considerable differences between the versions. Necrozma could be in this but it would mean going into the human's minds and having a conversation there. Do you know about Ultra Necrozma? Ultra Necrozma is OP. What forms would Necrozma be allowed to change into? (There are three forms). Yes his role would seem evil. I wonder why you choose Necrozma given you have never played USUM, plus, the evil villainous team leaders are there for a reason. I would find the villainous team leaders easier to rp than an 'evil' Pokemon. Necrozma is not like Mewtwo though.
 
I know the differences between Necrozma and Mewtwo, and I know a bit about Necrozma even though I've yet to play USUM - as far as I can tell the third act is changed, there's more Pokemon and that's it.
And believe me, I know about Ultra Necrozma. I guess his inclusion or not depends on if we want the Empire going out of its way to track down Solgaleo and Lunala, but it's questionable due to this RP taking place before SM/USUM.
 

What Did You Do To Snoke?

Previously Ratbag the Coward
I know the differences between Necrozma and Mewtwo, and I know a bit about Necrozma even though I've yet to play USUM - as far as I can tell the third act is changed, there's more Pokemon and that's it.
And believe me, I know about Ultra Necrozma. I guess his inclusion or not depends on if we want the Empire going out of its way to track down Solgaleo and Lunala, but it's questionable due to this RP taking place before SM/USUM.
What about Z moves?

Ultra Necrozma, whilst already being extremely powerful, has access to an exclusive Z move: Light that burns the sky. If he is as powerful as he is in the games, Necrozma could very well be the strongest character in this whole thing.

And believe me, USUM aren't just Sun and Moon re-tweeked. The Necromza storyline does depict him as evil but when you go up Victory Road, spoilers: you see Necrozma in a crater and battle and capture him. Here, he's revealed to be the opposite of evil and actually just wants to join your team, a point most people don't pick up, that, at the end of the day, no Pokemon is truely evil. On the other hand, evil team leaders...
 
Necrozma isn't "evil". I don't think it can really make conscious decisions. It's an animal, and it just so happens it's an animal that can control light and is incredibly powerful. In it's Ultra form, Necrozma actually does speak, but little more but blathering on about light. Certainly doesn't seem like a stable ally as opposed to Mewtwo or even Giovanni. Of course, Giovanni is little more than a yakuza boss at best. I don't think he was really too concerned with taking over the world (Until he discovered the Ultra Beasts- but even that is some time from happening, considering this take place before B2/W2, in which he appears as a challenger in the PWT), but perhaps he would be interesting in the monetary gain from selling off Eggman/Wily technology on the side and also giving the Cabal insider information.
 

What Did You Do To Snoke?

Previously Ratbag the Coward
Necrozma isn't "evil". I don't think it can really make conscious decisions. It's an animal, and it just so happens it's an animal that can control light and is incredibly powerful. In it's Ultra form, Necrozma actually does speak, but little more but blathering on about light. Certainly doesn't seem like a stable ally as opposed to Mewtwo or even Giovanni. Of course, Giovanni is little more than a yakuza boss at best. I don't think he was really too concerned with taking over the world (Until he discovered the Ultra Beasts- but even that is some time from happening, considering this take place before B2/W2, in which he appears as a challenger in the PWT), but perhaps he would be interesting in the monetary gain from selling off Eggman/Wily technology on the side and also giving the Cabal insider information.
You're right about Giovanni. But when does Ultra Necrozma speak? Is it some sort of unheard easter egg in the games...i don't think the anime has gotten onto him yet?
 
Eh, Giovanni doesn't seem like he'd be the best for the Cabal if that's all he can bring to the table... And does Necrozma really just want to join a team? I feel like he wouldn't absorb almost all the light of an alternate dimension and absorb Solgaleo/Lunala if that was the case. No Pokemon is truly evil (except in Mystery Dungeon) but it seems to me like Necrozma's the closest to it.
 

What Did You Do To Snoke?

Previously Ratbag the Coward
Eh, Giovanni doesn't seem like he'd be the best for the Cabal if that's all he can bring to the table... And does Necrozma really just want to join a team? I feel like he wouldn't absorb almost all the light of an alternate dimension and absorb Solgaleo/Lunala if that was the case. No Pokemon is truly evil (except in Mystery Dungeon) but it seems to me like Necrozma's the closest to it.
I don't see what Giovanni or an evil team leader WOULDN'T bring to the table if they have all of their thugs and goons from their evil team. As established in the Rainbow Rocket arc, in the post game (You should at least be interested in that) he also has connections to other evil teams as the first evil team leader and so is much more than a thug boss as of USUM. As of USUM, Rainbow Rocket Giovanni is now able to visit multiple dimensions. This ties in with the theme of multiple dimensions crossing one. So actually, this 'Yakuza thug' is now more of a universal conqueror than even Cyrus or Lysandre or some of the most world conquering villains in Pokemon who have wanted to destroy or make something big, if you know what I mean. He would also have a history with Red Blue and Green.
 
You're right about Giovanni. But when does Ultra Necrozma speak? Is it some sort of unheard easter egg in the games...i don't think the anime has gotten onto him yet?
If I recall correctly, Ultra Necrozma says something like "Light...Light!" before you fight them, but don't quote me on it.
I don't see what Giovanni or an evil team leader WOULDN'T bring to the table if they have all of their thugs and goons from their evil team. As established in the Rainbow Rocket arc, in the post game (You should at least be interested in that) he also has connections to other evil teams as the first evil team leader and so is much more than a thug boss as of USUM. As of USUM, Rainbow Rocket Giovanni is now able to visit multiple dimensions. This ties in with the theme of multiple dimensions crossing one. So actually, this 'Yakuza thug' is now more of a universal conqueror than even Cyrus or Lysandre or some of the most world conquering villains in Pokemon who have wanted to destroy or make something big, if you know what I mean. He would also have a history with Red Blue and Green.
Eeveechu has said himself that this takes before USUM, far far before. B2/W2 hasn't taken place yet, Giovanni should still be in hiding according to canon, but I'm willing to say he could have a hidden gang or something to that extent. Archer and Ariana are still somewhere, and probably willing to reorganize Rocket under Giovanni's return.
 
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...fuck it, Ratbag's convinced me. Giovanni's in the Cabal. Besides, I just realized the "takes place before USUM" thing isn't that substantial considering we've already got timeline work-arounds - we're taking from both the present day and 200 years in the future for Mobius, and the present day and distant past for Altea/Ylisse.
 
Fair enough. I was never against Giovanni all that much, Necrozma was the only one who seemed a little bizarre as a villain.

...I should probably start on another post now, huh? Need to figure out where the Knight and Hornet end up though. Maybe they could give Marth a hand, since Shadow isn't there anymore.
 
Perhaps the Knight and Hornet could end up on Mobius? It could let Sonic know that the Genesis Portals are active, and probably let him figure out where the Doc's gone. I'd like Marth and Falcon to lose their current battles - I was planning for Red to get taken down anyways.
 

What Did You Do To Snoke?

Previously Ratbag the Coward
...fuck it, Ratbag's convinced me. Giovanni's in the Cabal. Besides, I just realized the "takes place before USUM" thing isn't that substantial considering we've already got timeline work-arounds - we're taking from both the present day and 200 years in the future for Mobius, and the present day and distant past for Altea/Ylisse.
lol.

Thing is, if rainbow rocket Giovanni would eventually exist, and presuming he can travel to any dimension and any time, he can potentially go back in time to when this happened. I know that's kind of confusing/meta-ish wibbly wobbly timey whimey kind of thing...if you know what i mean...
 
Perhaps the Knight and Hornet could end up on Mobius? It could let Sonic know that the Genesis Portals are active, and probably let him figure out where the Doc's gone. I'd like Marth and Falcon to lose their current battles - I was planning for Red to get taken down anyways.
Sounds good, I don't think I would've let them win that fight anyways. It'd also wouldn't make too much sense in character for them to start fighting off the Eggman army if it never even posed a threat to them. Knowing that Eggman is behind the portals will put them staunchly against him, though.
 
Well, Eggman isn't BEHIND the portals' appearance. Not this time, at least - that's Archie Sonic continuity. He's just abusing the hell out of them for his own gain.
 
Jr., Wolf and K.Rool would likely be in command of their own fleets, going after a world that's not theirs. Jr. and K.Rool would be the ones to lose their fleets most likely, while Wolf has the highest chance of winning whatever battle he's going after. Yoshi and Fox are probably in their own worlds, but Yoshi's got to have noticed the giant Genesis Portal above the Mushroom Kingdom.
 

What Did You Do To Snoke?

Previously Ratbag the Coward
Jr., Wolf and K.Rool would likely be in command of their own fleets, going after a world that's not theirs. Jr. and K.Rool would be the ones to lose their fleets most likely, while Wolf has the highest chance of winning whatever battle he's going after. Yoshi and Fox are probably in their own worlds, but Yoshi's got to have noticed the giant Genesis Portal above the Mushroom Kingdom.
So Yoshi would be in Yoshi's island and Fox could be in Corneria? How did the villains communicate to each other so fast? And the armies are basically from Eggman's empire as with the other one?
 
Like in Worlds Collide, the villains already know about each other and have been planning this for a while now. We'll learn how they all met up in a flashback later on. And the majority of participants in the fleet is the Egg Fleet, as it's freaking ginormous and has major tech advancements.
 

What Did You Do To Snoke?

Previously Ratbag the Coward
Like in Worlds Collide, the villains already know about each other and have been planning this for a while now. We'll learn how they all met up in a flashback later on. And the majority of participants in the fleet is the Egg Fleet, as it's freaking ginormous and has major tech advancements.
I suppose the other rulers would have armies of their own, like Bowser's armada. Andross has an empire! If it's okay with you, i'm going to do what I did with the other one. Andross will arrive with Wolf in a massive ship and Wolf and Star Wolf will come out if it in seperate airwings. Where do you suppose Bowser Jr, Wolf and K.Rool would attack?
 

What Did You Do To Snoke?

Previously Ratbag the Coward
I mean yeah they have their own armies but Eggman's is the main one.
Dunno. Ask the other RPers. Maybe Wolf should attack the Nowhere Isles?
Where's that then? I was thinking maybe King K.Rool could attack Corneria and because he sort of has his own army too, the army overwhelms Star Fox and they capture and literally enslave Corneria. This is where it is wierd for me because why wouldn't Wolf and Andross attack Corneria first? They know the Lylat system better than the other villains. If you think about it, it's strategically flawed to put the villains in new places first. Do you know what I mean?
 
The Nowhere Islands is the world of Mother 3.
Oh, and this was one of the things Eggman made certain of. The villains can't lead conquests against their own world since the heroes of their world know how to deal with them. The theory is that new baddies the heroes can't handle can overwhelm them. Besides, they trade information about their worlds, so from Giovanni Eggman knows the locations of all the gym leaders. Therefore, Wolf and Andross should be able to give info about Corneria to K.Rool.
 

What Did You Do To Snoke?

Previously Ratbag the Coward
The Nowhere Islands is the world of Mother 3.
Oh, and this was one of the things Eggman made certain of. The villains can't lead conquests against their own world since the heroes of their world know how to deal with them. The theory is that new baddies the heroes can't handle can overwhelm them. Besides, they trade information about their worlds, so from Giovanni Eggman knows the locations of all the gym leaders. Therefore, Wolf and Andross should be able to give info about Corneria to K.Rool.
Oh okay, I see, I got confused. How do you suppose Giovanni would work? Presuming he's rainbow rocket...would he be on his own with his team of Pokemon or would he have Rainbow Rocket grunts helping him? I think he should have three Pokemon like Red Blue and Green and I think his backstory should involve being friends with Mewtwo since he has one on his team in USUM.
 
I don't think Giovanni and Mewtwo would be friends... Remember what Mewtwo did to the lab he was born in?
Giovanni would probably have some grunts as well as his own team of Pokemon.
 

What Did You Do To Snoke?

Previously Ratbag the Coward
I don't think Giovanni and Mewtwo would be friends... Remember what Mewtwo did to the lab he was born in?
Giovanni would probably have some grunts as well as his own team of Pokemon.
Is this RR version or the old version? There's at least two or three different Giovannis. You haven't played USUM, so you wouldn't know, but Giovanni actually has a Mewtwo as his ace as he has succeeded against Red and Mewtwo at that time, so I was thinking that there could be some backstory here. We'll have to tweek him slightly then if that's not the case. Shall we give him a three Pokemon team like the other Pokemon trainers to fit in?
 
Rhyperior, Nidoking and Persian works. Though I was thinking with Red it'd be a similar story to the games with the only major difference being the addition of Green.
 

What Did You Do To Snoke?

Previously Ratbag the Coward
Rhyperior, Nidoking and Persian works. Though I was thinking with Red it'd be a similar story to the games with the only major difference being the addition of Green.
So Red would have met this Giovanni. Green i'm presuming is like the one from the manga or a character like Leaf that is suppossed to be the female protagonist if you should choose her.
 
Green is meant to be Leaf, yes, but I'm treating her a bit more like Crystal from the manga where she's the one completing the Pokedex for Oak - she's not really interested in the gyms. But she does flirt with Red - they're old friends. And yes, Red would have met Giovanni.
 
Oh by the way, Eggman also gave three Mecha Sonics to each of his fellow Cabal commanders. That means Wolf, Giovanni, K.Rool, all them have a trio of Super Badniks to work with for taking anti-hero measures.
 
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