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Okay I made the necessary corrections and won't attempt to Gigantamax during the RP since we aren't in Galar . I didn't know you couldn't use images to describe appearances.
Well it's in the rules now. It is to stop people from using art without the creator's permission and get them to ask and give credit where it is due.
Also, it doesn't matter who started on the Battle Bond first. It's all good, that just means if our people battle (once you get accepted), that means we have something in common.
Also, it doesn't matter who started on the Battle Bond first. It's all good, that just means if our people battle (once you get accepted), that means we have something in common.
Alright then. I'll make sure to keep that in mind.
Makes sense. Alright then I'll attempt to do Battle Bond as well.
Makes sense. Alright then I'll attempt to do Battle Bond as well.
@The Legendary Trainer character looks good, but I would like you to change how she became a Spire Master, the position is not something you get hired into out of the gate. Spire Masters are seasoned battle hardened veterans of the Spire that are nearly if not is on par with league champions. I'm fine with you applying for one, just maybe say something like the 4 years of the time skip she was training and battling the Spire during its active seasons, since that would be about 8 seasons worth of battles, which is a ton if she's gunning for the Spire Master Spot, its enough to get Spire Master if the shes really good and works hard. just an idea. Sorry for the response time a lot to read through, make a few edits ans you'll be accepted 
@Merciless Medic yep, people can have up to 3 characters and battle bonds are fine, just remember battling with a Battle Bond means you share the pain of your active bonded Pokémon, might not be a big issue with Participants and Battlemasters, but with Spire Masters, the trainer may not be physically capable of withstanding some of the power of the hits they throw out more notably from Celeste's Lucario and Volcarona, and from Ceres's Cinderace and Dragapult, but that's if they'd ever battled lol
@Frontier Master Np, there's going to be a another large post about the Opening ceremony soon after Rebecca takes the participants tot he resort area and Kari finishes her battle
And no, Maxing in this RP, it's cool but not a super fan of it, also not in the right region, there was mention to it in one of the RP posts that Ceres was talking about it since she's from Galar but it was more of a passing mention
@Merciless Medic yep, people can have up to 3 characters and battle bonds are fine, just remember battling with a Battle Bond means you share the pain of your active bonded Pokémon, might not be a big issue with Participants and Battlemasters, but with Spire Masters, the trainer may not be physically capable of withstanding some of the power of the hits they throw out more notably from Celeste's Lucario and Volcarona, and from Ceres's Cinderace and Dragapult, but that's if they'd ever battled lol
@Frontier Master Np, there's going to be a another large post about the Opening ceremony soon after Rebecca takes the participants tot he resort area and Kari finishes her battle
And no, Maxing in this RP, it's cool but not a super fan of it, also not in the right region, there was mention to it in one of the RP posts that Ceres was talking about it since she's from Galar but it was more of a passing mention
@Foxex Ah okay fair enough. I have edited that in to make it seem like she has been known as 'Zen Trainer', aka the alias her Alter Zenith uses to battle, but now she'll be starting as herself, bringing the mask and Zenith's Trainer Card to prove it is her as they are not alike at all.. Also, she can Gigantamax their Snorlax and Charizard respectively, but only after going back to Galar to train against Maxed Pokemon with her non-Maxing Pokemon , so she doesn't actively use it while on the Island, as noted on the CS itself.
@The Legendary Trainer Frankie/Zenith accepted as Spire Master, if its only 3 years it would be 6 seasons then lol only 2 seasons a year in 3 month intervals, and only having 2 losses is a but far-fetched (heh get it... kill me) since one of the things to do to become a Spire Master is to beat all the current ones at least once, theirs a post with a rough estimate of win/loss percentages depending on rank and such I've posted earlier. But's it's not super relevant just something fun to see.
No one really has a % over 90 though they get close, a major part of it is trainers will pretty much always lose to some of the Battlemasters at some point and once they beat 1 Spire Master they can challenge any Spire Master without having to re-accumulate Prestige Points from the Battlemasters, so challengers at that point tends to just bash their heads against the Spire Masters and seek tutelage from them. more often than not a challenger's win/loss ratio will plummet because of this before it starts going up once they start finding success practicing against Battlemasters and challengers or achieve they Spire Master.
For those interested win loss ratios among just the Spire Masters range from 55% - 65%, the lower ones being considered as newer or "easier" Spire Masters. (lets face it though, they're all super tough in their own right lol)
No one really has a % over 90 though they get close, a major part of it is trainers will pretty much always lose to some of the Battlemasters at some point and once they beat 1 Spire Master they can challenge any Spire Master without having to re-accumulate Prestige Points from the Battlemasters, so challengers at that point tends to just bash their heads against the Spire Masters and seek tutelage from them. more often than not a challenger's win/loss ratio will plummet because of this before it starts going up once they start finding success practicing against Battlemasters and challengers or achieve they Spire Master.
For those interested win loss ratios among just the Spire Masters range from 55% - 65%, the lower ones being considered as newer or "easier" Spire Masters. (lets face it though, they're all super tough in their own right lol)
@Foxex Fair enough. I didn't realize how disrespectful that was, and I did get the joke. I updated the number of years from 3 to 4 that she's been in the Spire, and I'll note her losses were many but weren't exactly stomps in either direction, so that it sort of puts both the Spires and those who have actually beaten her in good light, saying they are roughly comparable and had intense battles every time they clashed basically is the best way to go about this and shows her ability to grow and their talents as well.
I hope that is enough to get me accepted, but please let me know what to improve on and I'll do my best to respond in kind.
I hope that is enough to get me accepted, but please let me know what to improve on and I'll do my best to respond in kind.
@Foxex
I did want to make another one, but for now, since I see how far you guys are into the RP, until I get into the swing of things I'll stick with this one character for now . So, for now I'll merely read up to catch up, and eventually make a comprehensive post to respond to every important event that happened to the RP, while somehow hiding the fact she's a Spire Master until she meets up with one of them to discuss who she is in private .
I did want to make another one, but for now, since I see how far you guys are into the RP, until I get into the swing of things I'll stick with this one character for now . So, for now I'll merely read up to catch up, and eventually make a comprehensive post to respond to every important event that happened to the RP, while somehow hiding the fact she's a Spire Master until she meets up with one of them to discuss who she is in private .
Well all the Spire Masters know one another fairly well. Zenith/Frankie had to have battled them several times in the past.
So far only Ajax has had any real interaction with the participants. Ceres is in the crowd of new participants watching Rebecca and Celeste is still in the Spire talking with Dianthe.
So far only Ajax has had any real interaction with the participants. Ceres is in the crowd of new participants watching Rebecca and Celeste is still in the Spire talking with Dianthe.
They likely could recognize her though, but on the fact of battling: The Spires only battled Zenith within the Island, not Frankie. Frankie herself was training when they left the Island at several intervals to Train in Galar.
Plus, there is information about the Spire Masters when you talk to staff. They know general information about them, which includes their battle style, how tough they are, and Pokemon they use. If your trainer tries her best to hide her split personality, then the only thing the staff members will say is that "she seems to change sometimes, but we guess it's just a massive mood swing." If it is common knowledge, then they would likely know.
The staff members know everything about my character except how she trains her Pokemon. She keeps that hidden from public view because she doesn't want people to worry about her physical health, since she is used as a dummy for her Pokemon to use some of their attacks on. Plus, they are worried about her mental state anyway, she doesn't want to give them more of a reason to be worried.
The staff members know everything about my character except how she trains her Pokemon. She keeps that hidden from public view because she doesn't want people to worry about her physical health, since she is used as a dummy for her Pokemon to use some of their attacks on. Plus, they are worried about her mental state anyway, she doesn't want to give them more of a reason to be worried.
For the time of the previous 4 years of being in the Spire, Zenith was the only active personality . Now Frankie will attempt to Battle and have her own experiences in the Spire essentially. Zenith revealed it to the Spire Masters and told her that she will be battling mostly the next time they come to the Spire, so it is extremely likely the Staff will probably know by then. They can also show a difference, as Frankie has a softer tone and they will likely recognize Zenith's much deeper tone of voice upon her speaking through Frankie's Body. So in a sense, now that I think about it, yes they'll likely know if the Spire Masters do, since they likely probably told the Staff to watch out for that so it is easier to accept her .
They also have totally different battle rhytms and tactics, so it's easy to spot if you knew one of the personas deeply.
They also have totally different battle rhytms and tactics, so it's easy to spot if you knew one of the personas deeply.
So Spire Masters and Battlemasters can go pretty much anywhere they want also come and go to and from the island as they please. Only the new comers will be sort of directed where to go at first. Right now it’s just free roam until the opening ceremony which Spire Masters and Battlemasters are required to attend.
If you want you can just have the staff and attendants know who your character is, since they technically should.
If you want you can just have the staff and attendants know who your character is, since they technically should.
@The Legendary Trainer i expect the Spire Masters to utilize a wide range of attacks and abilities in creative ways. In the opening ceremony I’m having Ceres and Celeste battle it out in a 1v1 exhibition match that will showcase a rough idea of how their battle style works.
Ceres is the the Full Battle Specialist Spire Master. Her Pokémon battle with grace, adaptability, and extreme surgical-like precision similar to Celeste’s style of battle but with more flair and a bit less power. She was a former understudy’s of Celeste when she was challenging the Spire Masters and one of the veteran Spire Masters
While Celeste boasts the highest win rate of all the Spire Masters and is considered the strongest generalist and the hardest for challengers to beat for challengers that want to become Spire Masters. Holding the the fastest record victory against another Spire Master. She is currently the oldest Spire Master in terms of tenure and was the one that elevated the current Spire Masters to be as strong as they are today to keep up. (She’s kind of like the final boss of the spire so to speak lol)
Ceres is the the Full Battle Specialist Spire Master. Her Pokémon battle with grace, adaptability, and extreme surgical-like precision similar to Celeste’s style of battle but with more flair and a bit less power. She was a former understudy’s of Celeste when she was challenging the Spire Masters and one of the veteran Spire Masters
While Celeste boasts the highest win rate of all the Spire Masters and is considered the strongest generalist and the hardest for challengers to beat for challengers that want to become Spire Masters. Holding the the fastest record victory against another Spire Master. She is currently the oldest Spire Master in terms of tenure and was the one that elevated the current Spire Masters to be as strong as they are today to keep up. (She’s kind of like the final boss of the spire so to speak lol)
@Foxex Wow that is interesting. Can't wait for Frankie to eventually face her in a Pokemon Battle then.
I'm tempted to make Frankie known as the Defensive Move Specialist, as all six of her Pokemon can use Defensive Moves to offensive , mobile , and defensive levels that would honestly make her an formidable force even to Celeste, to that I guarantee it.
I'm tempted to make Frankie known as the Defensive Move Specialist, as all six of her Pokemon can use Defensive Moves to offensive , mobile , and defensive levels that would honestly make her an formidable force even to Celeste, to that I guarantee it.
Speaking of Win rates Ajax is going to be pretty close to Celeste’s level, the title of “strongest Spire master” should really depend on an individual participants preference for Double or Single battles.
Alright, so in terms of me making a Spire Master, how does this idea sound?
Despite the lack of social etiquette and knowledge in modern things due to living out in the wild and away from civilization, a middle-aged woman with the savagery of Pokemon comes out from the bushes to become a Spire Master. Her ability to speak Pokespeach and understand Pokemon at a deeper level allows her to fully connect with these creatures other people have yet to do so. Living out with Pokemon with no human contact has given her another understanding of how Pokemon live, and she has utilized her terrain and other Pokemon's weaknesses and strengths to use in battle. She has battled Pokemon herself, as well as command other Pokemon to attack people and other Pokemon. It was only when she had heard of the Gym Challenge in Galar, her home region, where she came out of the depths of her forested home to show the world what she is made of. With Pokemon she has befriended and trained through the years, she made her way to society, but struggled to coexist with humans in a much closer vicinity. After years of struggling to speak English, she prefers to stay silent and let her actions do the talking. Her ingenuity with items is amazing, but she has yet to understand the inner workings of them, like potions or PokeBalls. Education is what she needs, but battle experience and being a strategist is what she already has. She defeated the gyms quickly and utilizing her knowledge of the wild area to traverse through in a faster time than others' travel speeds. She then made her way to the Galar Tournament. Having not needed a Dynamax Band to defeat her opponents, she took a bitter loss at the hands of the finalist. After much seclusion off in another region to collect more tough Pokemon and come back to challenge the Galar League, she has overcome her inability to speak broken English and has learned how to live in society once again. She had beaten the league and squared off against the champion in Galar - and defeated them. Now, at the ripe-old age of 35, and after many seasons at Veritas, she has finally become a Spire Master. While not as strong as some of the more notable ones, like Celeste, Ceres, and Ajax, she is one of the more formidable ones, with her opponents having an internal strife as they try to understand their Pokemon who understand her speech to her Pokemon, but are unable to communicate with their own trainers the much needed information to counter them. The only people who have won against her were ones who were able to be quick on their feet and didn't have to tell their Pokemon what to do.
If this concept for a Spire Master is accepted, I'll make a sheet for her.
Despite the lack of social etiquette and knowledge in modern things due to living out in the wild and away from civilization, a middle-aged woman with the savagery of Pokemon comes out from the bushes to become a Spire Master. Her ability to speak Pokespeach and understand Pokemon at a deeper level allows her to fully connect with these creatures other people have yet to do so. Living out with Pokemon with no human contact has given her another understanding of how Pokemon live, and she has utilized her terrain and other Pokemon's weaknesses and strengths to use in battle. She has battled Pokemon herself, as well as command other Pokemon to attack people and other Pokemon. It was only when she had heard of the Gym Challenge in Galar, her home region, where she came out of the depths of her forested home to show the world what she is made of. With Pokemon she has befriended and trained through the years, she made her way to society, but struggled to coexist with humans in a much closer vicinity. After years of struggling to speak English, she prefers to stay silent and let her actions do the talking. Her ingenuity with items is amazing, but she has yet to understand the inner workings of them, like potions or PokeBalls. Education is what she needs, but battle experience and being a strategist is what she already has. She defeated the gyms quickly and utilizing her knowledge of the wild area to traverse through in a faster time than others' travel speeds. She then made her way to the Galar Tournament. Having not needed a Dynamax Band to defeat her opponents, she took a bitter loss at the hands of the finalist. After much seclusion off in another region to collect more tough Pokemon and come back to challenge the Galar League, she has overcome her inability to speak broken English and has learned how to live in society once again. She had beaten the league and squared off against the champion in Galar - and defeated them. Now, at the ripe-old age of 35, and after many seasons at Veritas, she has finally become a Spire Master. While not as strong as some of the more notable ones, like Celeste, Ceres, and Ajax, she is one of the more formidable ones, with her opponents having an internal strife as they try to understand their Pokemon who understand her speech to her Pokemon, but are unable to communicate with their own trainers the much needed information to counter them. The only people who have won against her were ones who were able to be quick on their feet and didn't have to tell their Pokemon what to do.
If this concept for a Spire Master is accepted, I'll make a sheet for her.
@Frontier Master & @Foxex Im honestly sorry. I should've asked to interrupt such an exchange, but I saw an opportunity to introduce Frankie without her hiding herself until the opening and I took it
One problem Ajax wasn’t the one battling, he was just talking tot Trevor while he battled Becca
Oh I was sure I fixed the mistake . She was referencing the whole punishment and acting arrogant because of having higher achievements and higher rank. It didn't have anything to do with how Rebecca battled or the battle itself , except at the end when she said to congratulate him for staring down a wall and trying to conquer it and destroying his own fear.
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Ajax isn’t the one who initiated the arrogance, he’s merely mirroring Trevor’s own arrogance and showboating back at him.
Well, it sure looked like your character was just being arrogant because of how good they were XD
Ajax used to be arrogant and passionate about battling. However that arrogance is what lead to the death of someone he loved, he disappeared for over a year to sort himself out and when he finally re-emerged his arrogance was replaced with this silent hatred for arrogance.
His behavior mirrors those who interact with him, Trevor was Aggressive and Arrogant, so Ajax returned that attitude ten-fold. He needs these trainers to realise that despite their achievements there is always someone better than them. Thus it is best for them to sit back and listen to what Rebecca dna Ajax had to say rather than challenging them outright and forcing their hand with the brutality and Hostility. These trainers have reputations to uphold, reputations which would be undermined if they didn’t showcase their fully prowess when challenged.
His behavior mirrors those who interact with him, Trevor was Aggressive and Arrogant, so Ajax returned that attitude ten-fold. He needs these trainers to realise that despite their achievements there is always someone better than them. Thus it is best for them to sit back and listen to what Rebecca dna Ajax had to say rather than challenging them outright and forcing their hand with the brutality and Hostility. These trainers have reputations to uphold, reputations which would be undermined if they didn’t showcase their fully prowess when challenged.
@Frontier Master While I obviously respect why he feels he needs to teach him, which he likely does need to be taught, but in my opnion, that could've been worded better by Ajay , hence why Frankie is confronting him about . And besides, perhaps can you word it differently ? Because :
“if that performance is anything to go buy I’ll be retiring before you even get close to challenging me, you were just mollywhoped by a Battle-master, No offense Rebecca, I AM A SPIRE MASTER! I don’t think you understand what that means, it means that any one of my Pokémon could sweep your entire team countless times blindfolded. The way I see it you have two choices either you; Shut up, apologize for your actions and follow Becca to your lodging without anymore interruptions or I will personally show you the true meaning of a humiliating defeat!”
None of the bolded implies he was an instructor or even someone who mimicked his arrogance, as Trevor didn't show that level of arrogance in the battle whatsoever.
“if that performance is anything to go buy I’ll be retiring before you even get close to challenging me, you were just mollywhoped by a Battle-master, No offense Rebecca, I AM A SPIRE MASTER! I don’t think you understand what that means, it means that any one of my Pokémon could sweep your entire team countless times blindfolded. The way I see it you have two choices either you; Shut up, apologize for your actions and follow Becca to your lodging without anymore interruptions or I will personally show you the true meaning of a humiliating defeat!”
None of the bolded implies he was an instructor or even someone who mimicked his arrogance, as Trevor didn't show that level of arrogance in the battle whatsoever.
@The Legendary Trainer Well, Frontier Master did say that Ajax multiplied the guy's arrogance. So it made sense that he would be more arrogant. But you do have a point. I know if my character had been watching that, he'd probably be like, 'Wow, that Spire Leader or whatever is a bit of an asshole'. There's really not much to debate here XD. Ajax had his reason for saying what he did, and our characters can react in kind.
It’s AjaX with an X.
Ajax has no time for Trevor’s Arrogance, it was hyperbole to get the boy to cease his interruption so Becca can continue the tour.
If Trevor reappears in the Rp and has learnt his lesson Ajax would be more than happy to mentor him or any of the others. But in order to reach the next level of prowess one must let go of their egos.
Ajax is merely making a big statement, his true colours will shine through soon. He
Ajax has no time for Trevor’s Arrogance, it was hyperbole to get the boy to cease his interruption so Becca can continue the tour.
If Trevor reappears in the Rp and has learnt his lesson Ajax would be more than happy to mentor him or any of the others. But in order to reach the next level of prowess one must let go of their egos.
Ajax is merely making a big statement, his true colours will shine through soon. He
lol there could be a misunderstanding, im sure it happens
@Frontier Master,
@The Legendary Trainer The current specialist that trainers can specialize into are battle types i.e. full, doubles, triple, rotation, etc. and type specializations like fire, water, ice, ground etc. getting to specialize into move types would be a too much and too specific lol
@Merciless Medic Sounds cool, i think think there was an applicant earlier that tried for Spire Master that could use Pokéspeak to communicate, but was rejected, never bothered to edit some of the issues with the character. I would like to see a character like that, also fills more Spire Master slots. I have another character to use for it but i'd rather other people have them lol, they would be better as a Battlemaster as well,
I'll post a condensed version of Rebecca's bio later in the week.
@Frontier Master,
Yes I agree. I was just referring to Celeste being a generalist since she's not specialized in anything. and Specializations are a new addition
@The Legendary Trainer The current specialist that trainers can specialize into are battle types i.e. full, doubles, triple, rotation, etc. and type specializations like fire, water, ice, ground etc. getting to specialize into move types would be a too much and too specific lol
@Merciless Medic Sounds cool, i think think there was an applicant earlier that tried for Spire Master that could use Pokéspeak to communicate, but was rejected, never bothered to edit some of the issues with the character. I would like to see a character like that, also fills more Spire Master slots. I have another character to use for it but i'd rather other people have them lol, they would be better as a Battlemaster as well,
I'll post a condensed version of Rebecca's bio later in the week.
I feel like this has devolved into how Frontier Master should have played Ajax better.
While I do agree that Ajax did sound like an asshole, he had a point, no matter how aggressive he put it. But being a Battle Master or a Spire Master meant that these people went through some shit to get to where they are now. They hate it when people, like Trevor, take what they do for granted and expect their success to be handed out on a silver platter when they get to the Spire, forgetting the experiences they went through to even get on Veritas Island. So how Ajax was played shouldn't even be debated as we don't know how he is as a character except for Frontier Master. You can't simply say "they should have said it less arrogantly". While you are right and they could have said it less like an asshole, but that doesn't mean he should have been played less like an asshole.
What I'm saying is that Ajax was played as he should be due to his actual character, and the things we don't know about him have influenced the way he is and why he acted like that. I implied in my character sheet that Shade has a strained mentality due to the late nights of night terror riddled sleep, which is also stopped by her insomnia. I didn't mention that her mentality could snap, but that's just how the human psyche works. You have a threshold before you snap and you become a completely different person, sometimes that could include being violent or more depressed.
I don't know why this felt like we were low key debating whether or not Ajax should have been played less like an asshole, but misunderstandings happen and I just wanted to add my two cents there.
I would suggest not trying to play the character as how you would act (no matter how different they are from you), but play the character as how they would act. Influences from what you have gone through may bleed through, but it would at least keep you from getting emotionally attached to what is going on (I sensed that a bit during your explanation here, The Legendary Trainer, but correct me if I'm wrong).
While I do agree that Ajax did sound like an asshole, he had a point, no matter how aggressive he put it. But being a Battle Master or a Spire Master meant that these people went through some shit to get to where they are now. They hate it when people, like Trevor, take what they do for granted and expect their success to be handed out on a silver platter when they get to the Spire, forgetting the experiences they went through to even get on Veritas Island. So how Ajax was played shouldn't even be debated as we don't know how he is as a character except for Frontier Master. You can't simply say "they should have said it less arrogantly". While you are right and they could have said it less like an asshole, but that doesn't mean he should have been played less like an asshole.
What I'm saying is that Ajax was played as he should be due to his actual character, and the things we don't know about him have influenced the way he is and why he acted like that. I implied in my character sheet that Shade has a strained mentality due to the late nights of night terror riddled sleep, which is also stopped by her insomnia. I didn't mention that her mentality could snap, but that's just how the human psyche works. You have a threshold before you snap and you become a completely different person, sometimes that could include being violent or more depressed.
I don't know why this felt like we were low key debating whether or not Ajax should have been played less like an asshole, but misunderstandings happen and I just wanted to add my two cents there.
I would suggest not trying to play the character as how you would act (no matter how different they are from you), but play the character as how they would act. Influences from what you have gone through may bleed through, but it would at least keep you from getting emotionally attached to what is going on (I sensed that a bit during your explanation here, The Legendary Trainer, but correct me if I'm wrong).
In my original post I did actually say it was from my character's viewpoint, but I do see where you are getting at. However, I would've likely done something similar to AjaX if I acted like myself so it was definitely my character only I was referring to.
Okay, just making sure ^^
Just wanted to make sure no nefarious sins were being made in RPing (I see it all the time on this site, so you can't blame me for being paranoid).
Just wanted to make sure no nefarious sins were being made in RPing (I see it all the time on this site, so you can't blame me for being paranoid).