Said two Jonin were tired themselves if you remember correctly. And again it is bottom barrel Jonin (Toothpick guy and scarface).
But it is a better argument yes. One we use selectively it seems XD
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Private/Closed Naruto AU RP: discussion
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Said two Jonin were tired themselves if you remember correctly. And again it is bottom barrel Jonin (Toothpick guy and scarface).
But it is a better argument yes. One we use selectively it seems XD
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Though it seems Sakon alone is physically stronger than most of it cast, carrying Sauske by the ankle with one hand.
I mean, they were in a cave and unlike Shen Darui would rather not have caused a cave in to risk killing us all XD
Plus he wanted to conserve in the event the Jinchuriki tried something.
Okay no I am gonna stop this narrative right now. Jirobo was the team muscle of the group not Sakon, all of the Sound 4 carried Sasuke around with ease including Kidomaru & Tayuya.
In assistance of godjacob's arguement
Probably meant Jonin Tier in Curse Mark 2 Mode. After all if all 4 of them were Jonin tier in base then 4 Curse Mark 2 vs 2 Jonin should've been a quick clean up. They didn't even need Curse Mark 2, just curse mark one would've been enough to slap the two Jonin 0 issues.
If they ended up exhaused afterward, then I can't imagine they didn't use Curse Mark stage 2.
Probably meant Jonin Tier in Curse Mark 2 Mode. After all if all 4 of them were Jonin tier in base then 4 Curse Mark 2 vs 2 Jonin should've been a quick clean up. They didn't even need Curse Mark 2, just curse mark one would've been enough to slap the two Jonin 0 issues.
If they ended up exhaused afterward, then I can't imagine they didn't use Curse Mark stage 2.
They mention they did. And they were exhausted and barley won against 2 Jonin who were tired and fresh off a mission themselves.
Shen really has a tendency to overhype them.
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Never said Jirobo wasn’t stronger. Just saying Sakon is stronger physically than most of our cast.
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Shikamaru said in canon they were like jounin tier opponents.
Although I personally believe they are pseudo jounin. If anything, i am de-hyping
There is no basis for this, cause we have little evidence how his physical strength scales to our OCs.
You know, maybe Shikimaru might be wrong here. Just saying....if Kakashi's comment can be challenged by kyuu I can challenge this XD
And in our AU they are most defiantly not even borderline tier. Our caste dealt them handily and they had less exhaustion and a day of rest in their favor than in canon.
I...100% would collapse that cave. Cause I don't have genin-chunin to worry about xD
Given they were Chunin-level in base, calling them basic Jonin in Curse Mark Stage 2 isn't exactly a stretch though?
I mean you can watch the Kai/Tayuya fight in Curse Mark 2 if you want a basis for how they scale. Same with all of them with Jirobo dying and the rest being beaten by 1-2 people at most.
For referrence, and in Shura's defense, the 8 trigrams are pretty complex because Each Trigram has 5-6 associated things (element, direction, family member, action etc.), and then there are 2-3 different versions of the 8 trigrams, and then that's without getting into the 64 combinations that make up the Hexagrams.
It's not really something that could be explained verbally lol.
It's not really something that could be explained verbally lol.
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Most adults can’t lift teenagers with one hand
Ehhhh they did the four serpents formation along with added barriers, a fight with anko (which they basically tied with) and still fought.
In our AU they've definitely been nerfed. The Sound Four got pretty underplayed in our battles with them, I would still call them top of the Chunin Rank boarderline Jonin rank is Stage 2 Though.
Their Curse Marks aren't as strong as Kiro's in any case.
Again, there was a big delay between this skirmish an the fights with the OCs. And again Tayuya did not do much in that fight that justifies her being tired (Which we did a poor job selling). They could recover easily in that time it took for the teams to form.
Plus Anko herself did little, it was disposable ANBU that did and well....disposable.
Just saying they are weaker here, and that isn't an issue really just that we can't hype them up as stronger than they are in my view when they've underperformed to this stage.
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
I still have by own gripes with Shura vs Sakon, but eh, I plan on using them to their potential. Don’t worry about that.
I agree with your general point.
Though does that make Kai borderline Jonin tier? And Sagiso by extension? He alone matched Tayuya and beat her out of Curse Mark 2.
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Not neccicarily. Just means they matched up well. Especially considering Tayuya fought Taiyo, Raiku, and Kai all at the same time before isolating and beating Kai, then Taiyo.
I don't remember the context of the forest chase arc in the Anime that well but from what Im reading our AU sound 4 had a lot more rest in between the confrontations
Kiro was just asking for an idea on how the signal worked. Is he sending something to the air? Is it something only the byakugan can read? Is it just a basic sign on a tree? Something simple like that. Poor Kiro has been trying to be nice and is being shrugged off. Anyone see the problem here? Lel
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
And Sagiso? Not by a long shot. She teamed up with Takato and even then Kin is the reason he was taken out. And even when she mauled him, he still broke Sagiso’s arms
That was A BRIEF EXCHANGE Shen. Stop using it as false hype man I told you this over and over again it lasted like a response XD
And Kai was beating on Tayuya, not Kai. She got F-ed up and Kai hurt himself more than she did. The same gripes you had about Shura vs. Sakon I have with this and the general sound fights.
Shura also matched against Sakon and Ukon with the assistance from Shiho but then I was dumb and overestimated an early Naruto character's durability
No I meant Sagiso defeated Kai who by extension pushed Tayuya to her limits and all but beat her (Fight was stopped).
I working on developing Shura's passive agressive side
That’s cool actually. I’m working on developing Kiro’s chill side lel
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Yet she still tanked everyone’s Combined strongest moves at once :T
I see your point with that one. I would only say it was a matter of circumstance that he managed to win...and the fact that Kai seemed to pertty much counter Tayuya's Doki with his ice drones.
For example, Sagiso wouldn't have such an easy time with the Doki because she'd need to fight them directly.
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
That’s a false equivalence fallacy
"Strongest" is being very very generous.
TLDR Sound 4 were a disappointment and we can't run on the Psudo Jonin tier strength with them in my opinion with how they have been showcased to this point. Just feels like a jump for them that is unearned.
Its...self explanitory though. I suppose its cause you don't have an image.
But a Trigram is basically 3 lines which might be broken in some places.
So those eight at the very bottom at the trigrams.
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Yeah it’s matchup
Like a jounin Tenten vs genin Temari. Sure tenten is higher rank, but temari still has an advantage
And I am hoping I can go back and give Madoka a personality that stands out like in the first exam XD
A bad match up is Tayuya vs. Temari or something. One where the user's style directly plays to the weakness of the other's style. This was not Kai vs. Tayuya by any stretch XD
That's not how match ups work though, you can't just make them equivalent like that unless the character carry the same skill-set.
Hmmm, to give an example.
Yasu beat Kenji then lost to Zaku but Kenji did far better against Zaku than Yasu ever did.
How does the signal get to Hinagiku? Does the byakugan see them? Whether or not Kiro understands what it says makes no difference. He’s trying to figure out how the information is transferred.
I feel like we glossed over hit Finals match with Zaku where Yasu did incredibly well despite the disadvantage XD
But Kai did play to her weaknesses.
Ice Drones to match up with Doki and then Organic Freeze to finish them off if I remember correctly.
Plus her specialty was getting countered by bitch-slap moments. She didn't really have any cards to play after that.
Technically speaking her Doki evened out with the Ice Army and she lost 2 of them to the Ice Freeze and not the third which stuck around till the end.
Plus her Curse Mark buff should have been a better advantage than it actually was. Is all I am gonna say on this topic...