Private/Closed Fiction Crossover

[Shen: King of Digimon]

And Shen... Yes, you have the most Specter research. But you're also the most likely to be buffing him up via personal bias.

I can see your concerns, but believe me I’m all about balance in this Rp. I’ve been all about that since day 1 XD.

And Specter is no exception, he isn’t grossly overpowered, nor is he a pushover. It’s kinda like if I said to you that Amy was stronger than silver, while objectively false, you have more information about silver than anyone in this RP, so that risks you buffing him too. But I trust you with handling his character, and I would very much appreciate if I were given the same level of trust

 

[Mechanist Gamma]

...tbh I actually kind of did until IDW #11 made me rethink just how Silver's brand of telekinesis works xD

 

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Believe what you will, that doesn’t change fact. 10 minutes of your research doesn’t amount to my experience in the franchise. Now I believe we should stop this specific line of arguments as to avoid harming the RP

who said 10 minutes? i think you're making assumptions.
actually, let's look at all the points you've made needless assumptions to helplessly 'further' your argument.

Shen: 'If you see the anime, then you would disagree.'
Response: Actually, no. I've seen enough.

Shen: 'Your forgetting he was one of my first characters i introduced.'
Response: I did not forget, believe it or not. Thank you for your assumption. Also, it's 'You're'.

Shen: '10 minutes of your research doesn’t amount to my experience in the franchise.'
Response: Cute. No, actually, i've been doing some research for nearly seven hours. It's been gruelling, as Ape Escape is not nearly as interesting as God Eater, which i have also been researching in order to portray the Aragami accurately and do them justice.

Now I believe we should stop this specific line of arguments as to avoid harming the RP

i understand this was an attempt to 'get in the last laugh', but this will not stop me as of now. i know you'll just refute this in the way you typically do. you put Specter on a pedastal, and he's failing to live up to the standards you set. he's a disappointment thus far (at the very least, in my opinion', and to be frank, you're acting like a con man with the way you talk about your characters, cracking them up to be way more than they really are.

personally, i like reading your posts. i just think putting in a little more consideration and thought into your characters would do the rp justice, so as to prevent false representations of characters. everything you've displayed about Specter thus far has been accurate. his personality, objective, and interactions have been spot-on, but as for combat? i'm hoping you take this into account and keep him more accurate to himself.

i'm off the hook (albeit slightly) in this arena with Doomslayer, as he's an alternate version of the Doom Slayer, a weaker incarnation, however, i've stayed as true to the character of Flynn Taggart and the Praetor armor as i could.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Shen: 'If you see the anime, then you would disagree.'
Response: Actually, no. I've seen enough.

Shen: 'Your forgetting he was one of my first characters i introduced.'
Response: I did not forget, believe it or not. Thank you for your assumption. Also, it's 'You're'.

Shen: '10 minutes of your research doesn’t amount to my experience in the franchise.'
Response: Cute. No, actually, i've been doing some research for nearly seven hours. It's been gruelling, as Ape Escape is not nearly as interesting as God Eater, which i have also been researching in order to portray the Aragami accurately and do them justice.

More so a guesstimation. But I’m not trying to start a fight here Comic, which I fear is what might be starting. While I’d o appreciate you starting to look into a franchise my character comes from, all I can say is I’m further into the franchise, and so know more than most would in this specific area, and so trust me about my knowledge of the franchise, I’d appreciate it.

understand this was an attempt to 'get in the last laugh',

I’m not, as this isn’t a fight, so I don’t have that type mindset

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

personally, i like reading your posts. i just think putting in a little more consideration and thought into your characters would do the rp justice, so as to prevent false representations of characters. everything you've displayed about Specter thus far has been accurate. his personality, objective, and interactions have been spot-on, but as for combat? i'm hoping you take this into account and keep him more accurate to himself.

Well you see he hasn’t gone into combat yet, so hasn’t had a chance to really display those qualities. It’s been building up to his fight with the crew, and I wouldn’t want to spoil that build up you guys worked towards.

Oh trust me I’m a Representation Nazi with my characters. I do it so they are as accurate as possible, hence why I changed Timeman’s conception early on to morph around Eevee’s ideas, as he knows more of the franchise than I do, objectively

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

at the very least, in my opinion', and to be frank, you're acting like a con man with the way you talk about your characters, cracking them up to be way more than they really are.

Well I’d certainly hope not. I’d like to say my characters are an accurate depiction of who they are, otherwise I’ve failed as a Rper. Considering the Specter I’ve shown in this Rp and the Specter I know, I can assure you they are one in the same

 

[Mechanist Gamma]

as he knows more of the franchise than I do, objectively

Mastermix, yes. Mega Man in general, I really only know the original games and ZX

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Mastermix, yes. Mega Man in general, I really only know the original games and ZX

Yeah exactly XD. We all have our strong suits.

You know more about sonic and Megaman

Godjacob knows more about Kindgkm Hearts

And I happen to know more about ape escape and Sly Cooper

 

[Mechanist Gamma]

Also I know JoJo.

That wins me points instantly.


because i can understand the above

THE NEXT THING YOU'RE GOING TO SAY IS "...WHAT 0-0"

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Also I know JoJo.

That wins me points instantly.


because i can understand the above

....WHAT 0-0

 

[comic]

stop that.
stop making multiple posts.
just smash it all together, dude.
one post.

regardless, the topic shifted. back to the matter at hand.
Doomslayer > Specter
obviously, we both have bias. you know the most about Specter (objectively), and i know more than you do about Doom, as well as more than anyone about Doomslayer, as he's my own, twisted retelling of the original protagonist.
but truly, having looked into it as well as i have, Doomslayer does win the 1v1 scenario.

i mean, there's a reason Doom is a survival horror game.
the demons try to survive, and you're the horror.

Well I’d certainly hope not. I’d like to say my characters are an accurate depiction of who they are, otherwise I’ve failed as a Rper. Considering the Specter I’ve shown in this Rp and the Specter I know, I can assure you they are one in the same

i sure doubt that, personally, unless you personally have been writing the character since before 2001.

Yeah exactly XD. We all have our strong suits.

You know more about sonic and Megaman

Godjacob knows more about Kindgkm Hearts

And I happen to know more about ape escape and Sly Cooper

i suppose then i have a ton of strong suits.
i'd argue i'm pretty advanced in my knowledge of not just Undertale and Detarune, but the gaps in-between.
Burble is the superior intellect concerning Metal Gear.
i know more about Homestuck, arguably Halo, Doom (possibly), The Walking Dead, Heroes (though it's been a while. Bog probably surpassed me in this field), and Hugh Jackman's portrayal of Wolverine.
if there's one thing you need to know that i'm obsessed with, that's Hugh Jackman.
okay, that sounded creepy, but still. love that guy. follow everything he does. he better be in Endgame, but rumors are rumors, so...

 

[Mechanist Gamma]

THE NEXT THING YOU'RE GOING TO SAY IS "...WHAT 0-0"

....WHAT 0-0

called it

That's something Joseph Joestar does FYI - he's actually already done it in the RP once, where he precisely predicted what Sonic was going to say.

 

[comic]

Also I know JoJo.

That wins me points instantly.


because i can understand the above

THE NEXT THING YOU'RE GOING TO SAY IS "...WHAT 0-0"

my favorite part.
"I am not merely human. I'm MOOOAR!"

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

called it

That's something Joseph Joestar does FYI - he's actually already done it in the RP once, where he precisely predicted what Sonic was going to say.

Really...?? Well I guess you know me XD

 

[Mechanist Gamma]

my favorite part.
"I am not merely human. I'm MOOOAR!"

JoJo is something special when it makes you fall in love with a nazi.
Here's what JoJo did to make Baron von Stroheim an amazing character;
-made no mention of the traditional traits and racism associated with nazis
-portrayed stroheim as an extremely patriotic man - "GERMAN SCIENCE IS THE GREATEST IN THE WORLD" is his greatest quote
-made him a cyborg
-gave him THREE heroic self-sacrifices - how the hell is that even possible?!
-made him the one that gave jojo a robot hand after kars cut it off
-made him bat-shit insane in all the best ways

 

[comic]

nobody addressed it, as it was overshadowed greatly by the Doomslayer post, but i need another Halo nerd to chat with about it.
@Shen: Ghost Gym Leader
did you liek my Atriox intro?
also, Rebium will be recurring, though he won't survive the Flood.

 

[Mechanist Gamma]

Oh speaking of JoJo...
Don't forget about the Pillar Men.
Kars, Esidisi and Wamuu will all be appearing as villains under Z's control.
Beware the Aztec Gods of Fitness.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

nobody addressed it, as it was overshadowed greatly by the Doomslayer post, but i need another Halo nerd to chat with about it.
@Shen: Ghost Gym Leader
did you liek my Atriox intro?
also, Rebium will be recurring, though he won't survive the Flood.

“We are banished now.”

That whole scene was very well done~ Bravo on your part.

Oh speaking of JoJo...
Don't forget about the Pillar Men.
Kars, Esidisi and Wamuu will all be appearing as villains under Z's control.
Beware the Aztec Gods of Fitness.

Speaking of...I wonder what becomes of Belowski now that he’s in Camelot castle’s roof XD

 

[Mechanist Gamma]

Y'all should watch JoJo.
It's not just anime.
It's art.
and when you understand it you will fall in love with it
...
well at least part 2.
Part 1 is okay, but overall the worst arc. Part 2 is the best anime I've ever seen, aside from personal bias and memories with Heavy Object. Part 3 is super fun, but it is really long. As in two seasons. I can't speak for Parts 4 and 5 - waiting for the dub of Part 4 to finish up before I watch them.
But you get shit like flexing vampires, the aztec gods of fitness, magical sun karate, a battle ghost that resembles purple vines and can destroy a camera to spy on an enemy, cyborg nazis and fucking Joseph Joestar.
Y'all have GOTTA watch JoJo.

 

[Godjacob]

Look let's just say both Doomslayer and Specter are wanked in this and call it a day (JK) and I do like how a Kale thing became "Specter vs. Doomslayer" again XD

 

[BurbleBurble]

Burble is the superior intellect concerning Metal Gear.

Yay I'm smart at something

I blame that on my obssessive personality. I get obssessed with something for a few weeks, research everything about said thing, until I find the next thing to obssess over. So for a bit it was Metal Gear Rising, which led me toward MGS I-V. Then it was Bravely Default, hence Airy's presence in the sequel...Now it's Mother 3, hence Lucas's presence in the sequel.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Look let's just say both Doomslayer and Specter are wanked in this and call it a day (JK) and I do like how a Kale thing became "Specter vs. Doomslayer" again XD

That seems to become a common theme doesn’t it? XD

 

[Godjacob]

That seems to become a common theme doesn’t it? XD

Pretty much like

Kale: *Goes Berserker* I AM GONNA DES...

Specter & Doomslayer: *Begin to bicker and fight*

Kale: ...troy...?

 

[Ariados twice]

Pretty much like

Kale: *Goes Berserker* I AM GONNA DES...

Specter & Doomslayer: *Begin to bicker and fight*

Kale: ...troy...?

Camelot Valgus: At least your seeing some action.

 

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it wouldn't be if Specter wasn't stealing her spotlight.
besides, why bother discussing Doomslayer vs Kale?
outcome of that is pretty obvious.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Pretty much like

Kale: *Goes Berserker* I AM GONNA DES...

Specter & Doomslayer: *Begin to bicker and fight*

Kale: ...troy...?

Trust me, I try to avoid specter debates haha they tend to get off the rails

 

[Godjacob]

I mean I am just saying what is meant to be Kale's little moment in the plot is being overshadowed before she throws a punch.

it wouldn't be if Specter wasn't stealing her spotlight.
besides, why bother discussing Doomslayer vs Kale?
outcome of that is pretty obvious.

Maybe, but has Kale ever killed demons from hell?

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

I mean I am just saying what is meant to be Kale's little moment in the plot is being overshadowed before she throws a punch.

I already said I lined up a perfect set of targets for her to try out her power on. And even if that isn’t satisfactory, she could attack specter and the three keyblade weilders and/or Clockwerk

 

[comic]

Maybe, but has Kale ever killed demons from hell?

has Doomslayer ever fought in a tournament of power with actual Gods?

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Speaking of kale, how strong is she and Berserker form? As both are nerfed considerably

 

[Godjacob]

Speaking of kale, how stormgbis she and Berserker form? As both are nerfed considerably

Well she won't destroy the planet with a stray ki blast or anything due to nerfs. Her in Berserker should easily be the strongest person in terms of power in the fight (Including Clockwerk). Where she stands on tier lists and all that is eh....tier lists are funky.

 

[Pro Hero Dekiru]

if y'all don't mind imma wait on Mok with Maxwell's minions till I reply

Also freaking WATCH THIS RIGHT NOW

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Well she won't destroy the planet with a stray ki blast or anything due to nerfs. Her in Berserker should easily be the strongest person in terms of power in the fight (Including Clockwerk). Where she stands on tier lists and all that is eh....tier lists are funky.

Well yeah Clockwerk is about durability mainly not outright power

But as far as a range of her power. Like could she one-shot a skyscraper by flicking it? Punching it? Etc?

 

[Godjacob]

But as far as a range of her power. Like could she one-shot a skyscraper by flicking it? Punching it? Etc?

That's harder to say, in my head she can easily blow up skyscrapers with a powerful ki blast and her physical strength should overpower most. The thing with me is I go by what works best for the story at the moment so I tend to be....flexible? In that capacity.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

That's harder to say, in my head she can easily blow up skyscrapers with a powerful ki blast and her physical strength should overpower most. The thing with me is I go by what works best for the story at the moment so I tend to be....flexible? In that capacity.

So it isn’t truly set?

 

[Godjacob]

So it isn’t truly set?

It's typically set as "stronger than most characters outside of DB or specific individuals" outside of it. It's a case by case thing and depends on the match up. I'll try to be consistent with Kale's strength but it is not mapped out fully given I am working to nerf her so I can't just go by feat scans or scaling feats and all that.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

It's typically set as "stronger than most characters outside of DB or specific individuals" outside of it. It's a case by case thing and depends on the match up. I'll try to be consistent with Kale's strength but it is not mapped out fully given I am working to nerf her so I can't just go by feat scans or scaling feats and all that.

Well feats that she could do in her current states of nerf could help give us an estimate.

Without Berserker, could she lift a boulder? Tree? Car? Apartment building?

 

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Without Berserker, could she lift a boulder? Tree? Car? Apartment building?

those got progressively less impressive until the last one.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

those got progressively less impressive until the last one.

Not exactly is scaling order

 

[Godjacob]

For Kale she has ki blasts that can blow up cards, walls and above standard physicals. Though I'd wager she is the weakest of our party minus moments of rage (And well Comic having Kale one shot Doomslayer in base.)

Berserker Kale (Minimum) can blow up skyscrapers, airships and cause a terror to entire cities or fortified bases.