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Private/Closed Naruto AU RP: discussion

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Taiyo: Women are easier to deal with, and also they are able to think more logically, so yeah... Also I guess I just got some kinda luck.

Some women I'd say, doubt that would have worked with Tayuya XD (Though she wouldn't be flirting in that scenario XD)

Also I should work on a Tayuya/Anko interaction to get into AU Tayuya backstory before she sends her off to the Hyuga Clan or something to deal with.
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Isn’t that as close as it gets to declaring war on the Leaf village?

Pretty dang close. Except the leaf broke a treaty, detained the son of the yuki’s Leader as well as another mist ninja and refused to hand over half of them. That doesn’t look like the leaf is innocent. And the Yuki gave them a warning, and a twelve hour buffer period
 
Pretty dang close. Except the leaf broke a treaty, detained the son of the yuki’s Leader as well as another mist ninja and refused to hand over half of them. That doesn’t look like the leaf is innocent. And the Yuki gave them a warning, and a twelve hour buffer period
Well Kai isn’t innocent either. He’s nearly killed two civilians. Also, even if the Yuki attacked, wouldn’t they lose?
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Well Kai isn’t innocent either. He’s nearly killed two civilians. Also, even if the Yuki attacked, wouldn’t they lose?

Hit and runs and full scale warfare are two different things. They can most certainly have a chance at winning if they do their hit send run strike, and the leaf is usually peace-lovely-get along type, so I don’t know why in the world they aren’t succumbing to the demands to give a foreigner back to his people
 
Hit and runs and full scale warfare are two different things. They can most certainly have a chance at winning if they do their hit send run strike, and the leaf is usually peace-lovely-get along type, so I don’t know why in the world they aren’t succumbing to the demands to give a foreigner back to his people
If they'd asked nicely and at least pretended to keep decorum then the leaf wouldn't have cared. But instead, they've marched an army to the front gate, been wildly arrogant with ridiculous demands, and injured our citizens in broad daylight.

The leaf is passive, sure, but it's not filled with spineless cowards. If the village was filled with cowards then they would've long capitulated and given into demands, but the overly aggressive way the Yuki are doing this is forcing a fight.
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
If they'd asked nicely and at least pretended to keep decorum then the leaf wouldn't have cared. But instead, they've marched an army to the front gate, been wildly arrogant with ridiculous demands, and injured our citizens in broad daylight.

The leaf is passive, sure, but it's not filled with spineless cowards. If the village was filled with cowards then they would've long capitulated and given into demands, but the overly aggressive way the Yuki are doing this is forcing a fight.

The lead’s leadership is also decapitated, And their next in charge is also gone. They should be beyond nervous even before the leaf arrived, so they should be more afraid.

And they captured the Yuki’s son in the first place along with Kiro, so they instigated this. And I don’t think getting them back is considered a ‘ridiculous demand’. And Kai is the only one that has injured people, and the Yuki if they found out would take action against Kai for such behavior.

I’m sure after orochimaru’s Invasion they would be making any excuse to not get caught up in another possible blood bath. Especially with all of their best warriors either out of town or out of commission
 
The lead’s leadership is also decapitated, And their next in charge is also gone. They should be beyond nervous even before the leaf arrived, so they should be more afraid.

And they captured the Yuki’s son in the first place along with Kiro, so they instigated this. And I don’t think getting them back is considered a ‘ridiculous demand’. And Kai is the only one that has injured people, and the Yuki if they found out would take action against Kai for such behavior.

I’m sure after orochimaru’s Invasion they would be making any excuse to not get caught up in another possible blood bath. Especially with all of their best warriors either out of town or out of commission
So the Leaf should be afraid of the Yuki? The Uchiha and Hyūga should be enough to handle them alone. Don’t forget about Danzo as well. Perfect opportunity to show the Leaf that he can protect them. As for all their best warriors out of town, who is out of town?
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
So the Leaf should be afraid of the Yuki? The Uchiha and Hyūga should be enough to handle them alone. Don’t forget about Danzo as well. Perfect opportunity to show the Leaf that he can protect them. As for all their best warriors out of town, who is out of town?

Itachi, Kakashi, Jirayia, and several others are it of town, and minato is out of commission. That’s their top 4 gone.

And the leaf shouldnt be quaking in their boots terrified or anything, but they should bee very afraid. North Korea is a smaller power than the US by far, but one well placed nuke could decimate our populace, same principle applies here. There’s very little to sacrifice, if anything to sacrifice to make the Yuki leave, but hell to pay if they don’t give them what they want. After all, two leaf ninja are already staring right at Kiro. Wouldn’t they hand him over to avoid such bloodshed?
 

SageNeb

Previously 5DigitNeb
Itachi, Kakashi, Jirayia, and several others are it of town, and minato is out of commission. That’s their top 4 gone.

And the leaf shouldnt be quaking in their boots terrified or anything, but they should bee very afraid. North Korea is a smaller power than the US by far, but one well placed nuke could decimate our populace, same principle applies here. There’s very little to sacrifice, if anything to sacrifice to make the Yuki leave, but hell to pay if they don’t give them what they want. After all, two leaf ninja are already staring right at Kiro. Wouldn’t they hand him over to avoid such bloodshed?
Fugakus right next to kiro so if he notified fugaku he has a high chance of dying if he goes to the mist I don’t think he’ll just let that happen to an uchiha
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Fugakus right next to kiro so if he notified fugaku he has a high chance of dying if he goes to the mist I don’t think he’ll just let that happen to an uchiha

That’s doubtful. It’s a foreign ninja, and would he trade the lives of all the people the Yuki will tear through to get to him in exchange for one soul that isn’t even guaranteed?

Not to mention Asuma is there as well, he has the ability to choose too. All they need to do is return someone to their native people to avoid bloodshed. It really doesn’t cost a whole lot to ward the Yuki away
 
The lead’s leadership is also decapitated, And their next in charge is also gone. They should be beyond nervous even before the leaf arrived, so they should be more afraid.

And they captured the Yuki’s son in the first place along with Kiro, so they instigated this. And I don’t think getting them back is considered a ‘ridiculous demand’. And Kai is the only one that has injured people, and the Yuki if they found out would take action against Kai for such behavior.

I’m sure after orochimaru’s Invasion they would be making any excuse to not get caught up in another possible blood bath. Especially with all of their best warriors either out of town or out of commission

Hmmm, well I'll let godjacob deal with the situation since he controls most of the leaf.

I think we have vastly different opinions on how 'afraid' the Leaf should be. Kai has been returned and Kiro pertained to matters of national security. Besides, the capture, and torture of enemy ninja is nothing uncommon, we have an entire division of ninja dedicated to exactly that. Handing over Kiro to the Mist because of who he is as an Uchiha, and what he has in the Curse Mark, would be like the Leaf demanding the Mist hand over their Seven Sacred Blades.

To be more precise this issue revolves around the curse mark. Because of what Orochimaru has already done, he's proved himself more dangerous than the Mist village, so to choose between empowering Orochimaru and pissing of the Yuki, it's an easy choice.

Kai's harming civilians and Jin's openly threatening to kill people, even if the Yuki disprove their current actions really don't show that. As far as a Leaf ninja would see it, they're supporting Kai's actions and behavior.

As for the leaf backing down from fights, yea they would if the Yuki had gone about the situation better. They look as if they're flaunting their power because they know the leaf isn't in top form and want to use the opportunity to push us around. If we actually let them do that we'd be sending a clear message to every other ninja village The leaf is so weak right now that a handful of ninja can walk all over them. Sending that clear a message of weakness is inviting an attack, especially with the overly aggressive and conniving natures of Kumogakure and Iwagakure. Might as well paint a target on our back and say attack me now.

In my opinion, they should do everything possible to appear stronger than they actually are, if only to make the other villages think twice about launching an attack.
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
he has in the Curse Mark, would be like the Leaf demanding the Mist hand over their Seven Sacred Blades.
This is dead wrong, as the seven blades were forged and created by their fire ever leader and were practically created solely for being used by the mist. Meanwhile Kiro is a mist ninja that happened to be infected by the seal, that doesn’t make him the leaf’s property

he's proved himself more dangerous than the Mist village, so to choose between empowering Orochimaru and pissing of the Yuki, it's an easy choice.

Put it like this: do they want TWO enemies to fight right now? That’s the last thing they should want. They are fighting for Kiro, a foreign ninja so desperately to sacrifice an entire field of civilians for? Meanwhile Sasuke only earned four genin to search for him...seems fishy
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
As for the leaf backing down from fights, yea they would if the Yuki had gone about the situation better. They look as if they're flaunting their power because they know the leaf isn't in top form and want to use the opportunity to push us around. If we actually let them do that we'd be sending a clear message to every other ninja village The leaf is so weak right now that a handful of ninja can walk all over them. Sending that clear a message of weakness is inviting an attack, especially with the overly aggressive and conniving natures of Kumogakure and Iwagakure. Might as well paint a target on our back and say attack me now.

That’s the brilliant part. They have to choose between major physical, or minor influence pain. Because the influence one is simply a poor taste in your mouth, the physical one is a literal attack on their people that could murder incalculable ammounts of people. The leaf has given out tailed beasts for free as a sign of friendship, yet they won’t even give back a foreign ninja to his own village? That’s a dramatic shift of character for the entire nation to have.
 
This is dead wrong, as the seven blades were forged and created by their fire ever leader and were practically created solely for being used by the mist. Meanwhile Kiro is a mist ninja that happened to be infected by the seal, that doesn’t make him the leaf’s property
My point with the analogy was the Sharingan is of the same level of importance as the Mist's Ninja blades.

We could solve all of this by gouging out Kiro's eyes. We wouldn't have your Mist ninja, and you wouldn't have our Kekkei Genkai.

Put it like this: do they want TWO enemies to fight right now? That’s the last thing they should want. They are fighting for Kiro, a foreign ninja so desperately to sacrifice an entire field of civilians for? Meanwhile Sasuke only earned four genin to search for him...seems fishy
Sasuke left willingly and they authorized an A-rank mission to retrieve him. (Something usually reserved to Jonin)
They sent genin because they didn't have the manpower to do anything else, and I'll agree to that point.

However, if the Sound 4 had tried to barge into the leaf and then take Sasuke against his will, then that's a completely different situation. They'd have been swarmed by Jonin like Anko, Kurenai, Asuma, Hiashi, and anyone else who just happened to be in the village. They're not gonna chase the Yuki down if they, for example, try to capture Kiro and make a run for it, but the Yuki would need to go about doing that themselves, not trying to force the leaf to hand him over.

If Kiro was akin to Sasuke and wanted to leave, then yea, maybe only a couple of genin would've been sent to bring him back. But we're not holding him captive or anything? You've busted down the front door to the village and are trying to push a display of force.
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
We could solve all of this by gouging out Kiro's eyes. We wouldn't have your Mist ninja, and you wouldn't have our Kekkei Genkai.
That was their’s since he was born. To do this would be to pay money for a meal and get rotten food.

They're not gonna chase the Yuki down if they, for example, try to capture Kiro and make a run for it,
Basically is the point in a hit and run. I’ve said that this was their plan the entire time except with some purposeful deaths of as many people as possible along the way

Lmao if it happens then it happens. Even if he went back to the Mist willingly, he should still be executed.

Actually, he’d have some chances with the seal situation controlling his brain and the Kai lifeline. However, if he already defects in such an outrageous way as this, they will kill him without a second thought. It’s all about his actions and context, and if he keeps playing the missing nin rebel of course they will try and kill him. Though try and play innocence may work better
 
That’s the brilliant part. They have to choose between major physical, or minor influence pain. Because the influence one is simply a poor taste in your mouth, the physical one is a literal attack on their people that could murder incalculable ammounts of people. The leaf has given out tailed beasts for free as a sign of friendship, yet they won’t even give back a foreign ninja to his own village? That’s a dramatic shift of character for the entire nation to have.
The point was that this 'minor influence pain' may trigger a MASSIVE physical pain, far surpassing anything the Yuki could ever hope to deal to the Leaf.

It's not a dramatic shift of character, all villages are known to keep their kekkei genkai under strict control. If a Yuki had suddenly appeared in Konoha and the Leaf claimed it was their ninja, the Mist wouldn't stand for it.

Besides, tailed beast don't count for anything when Hashirama is Hokage :T
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
The point was that this 'minor influence pain' MAY trigger a MASSIVE physical pain, far surpassing anything the Yuki could ever hope to deal to the Leaf.

One is guaranteed, the other is speculation.

If a Yuki had suddenly appeared in Konoha and the Leaf claimed it was their ninja, the Mist wouldn't stand for it.

Actually, they would be okay with it. They wouldn’t try and take it back. However, they would go through measures to make sure she doesn’t have offspring or set her up with a Yuki. But that’s off topic
 
That was their’s since he was born. To do this would be to pay money for a meal and get rotten food.
The fact that the Mist managed to get its hands on the Sharingan with the leaf none the wiser was already enough for them to send an assassin or something.

Basically is the point in a hit and run. I’ve said that this was their plan the entire time except with some purposeful deaths of as many people as possible along the way
And that point right there in bold was exactly the kind of unnecessarily aggressive actions that cause the leaf to be so opposed.

We're not hellbent on protecting Kiro, but If you're gonna try to slaughter our citizens then we're gonna fight.
 
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Well if Kiro realizes Fugaku is the leader of the Uchiha, then his mindset might change. Why go back to the Mist and be executed when he could instead sacrifice his pride and stay with the Uchiha?
 
One is guaranteed, the other is speculation.
However the guarantee is a skirmish, and the speculation is a full-blown war.

Actually, they would be okay with it. They wouldn’t try and take it back. However, they would go through measures to make sure she doesn’t have offspring or set her up with a Yuki. But that’s off topic
Precisely. These are the sort of measure the Leaf should be taking, and we haven't even done that. Realistically, the leaf would rather kill or other sterilize Kiro so that the Sharingan never appears again in the mist. Not openly of course, but Root definitely would've done something about it.
 
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