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Private/Closed Naruto AU RP: discussion

First Exam:

  • Written exam

    Votes: 5 41.7%
  • ??? New exam

    Votes: 7 58.3%

  • Total voters
    12
  • Poll closed .

sSoul

Previously Swirled
depressing/jaded/indifferent/antagonistic figures XD.
Taiyo: really too optimistic to see how sucky life is as a ninja. Sure he knows about death and all, but he choses not to focus on that and have fun.
Tsuki: Really an infant in the ninja world, doesn't really like the idea of death just being so common and sees all people as just that, people, even if they are friends or enemies.
Seiun: I guess he could fall into this archetype, he isn't depressed or jaded, he just doesn't have guilt for his actions, therefore making him beyond redemption.
 

SageNeb

Previously 5DigitNeb
Ikr weird stuff :\=|:

I’m guessing he’s trying to figure out how to start an interaction without making it awkward or random? Like if he wants Raiku to interact w/ Kiro, the relationship their characters share rn doesn’t really allow Raiku to just walk up to Kiro and say ‘what’s up’ or something. That’s just my interpretation, I can’t say for sure that’s what he’s trying to figure out.
Basically but with shiho
 
@kyuukestu can you give me the details of the mansion so I can have Shura tell Tayuya about it?
I was gonna leave it vague so godjacob could describe it if he so desired.

The basic archetype for all buildings in the Hyūga Clan is that of the Oriental styled wooden houses of old. For reference;

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Fuck Hina- No, excuse me, but I’m sure Mikoto will be disappointed to hear that another woman has gotten into her husband’s head. It’s only a matter of time before Danzo and that manipulative witch takes our eyes and breed them! Hell, speaking of that brat, do we even know who his disgraceful parents actually are?”
Finish that phrase, I triple dog dare you!:)

“A very simple reason, shōshitsugestu, they can beat you by changing the terrain. Such as beaching you with earth ninjutsu or by polluting the waters, or even burying your city. You would be a fish out of water or a fish out of luck either way.” Jin spoke, knowing war tactics. “But it’s a good thing you are in on this idea. Others would cower in fear at the den of a false lion.”

They're going to change the terrain...in the middle of the ocean? No, scratch that, it wouldn't even matter because the Hōzuki can fuse with bodies of water to control them, even if they changed the terrain they'd have no way of telling apart the Hōzuki (in liquid form) from the normal water that was displaced.

Also, all that displaced land would flood their cities.

Don't even get me started on why Konoha wouldn't pollute the entire ocean in an attempt to flush out the Hōzuki.

Burying the city is something to be considered, though it wouldn't be an easy feat to bury a city hundreds of feet beneath the water, and that's assuming they even find the city...
 
Finish that phrase, I triple dog dare you!:)
In canon, Yashiro is literally all bark and no bite. Itachi revealed him to be a selfish coward while the man begged for his life. Then he tortured him with tsukuyomi before cutting off his head. Needless to say, the man would never say those words to her face.

Fun fact: Tobi was feeding Yashiro information. Yashiro then fed it too Fugaku which encouraged him to do the Cuop.
 

SageNeb

Previously 5DigitNeb
Yeah same. Maybe unlike the canon, he doesn’t treat his disease and dies early on. If that happens, it may even cause more heartbreak for Fugaku, leading him towards the coup.
Oh I forgot we’re doing the mist war thing again. You guys are always swapping between ideas! It makes it even more harder for me to figure out what to do with my characters than it already is!
 
Anyways, a plan I have down the road is to get Kiro to team with Danzo once he realizes he wants to destroy the clan. They both will be trying to use the other. Kiro will be oblivious to the fact that Danzo wants the eyes of all the Uchiha. Danzo on the other hand would be the key to Kiro receiving power from Orochimaru. In the end, they both still get part of what they want. The complete annihilation of the Uchiha clan! It’s not gonna be a good moment when Danzo and Orochimaru betray him right after... lel rip
 

SageNeb

Previously 5DigitNeb
Anyways, a plan I have down the road is to get Kiro to team with Danzo once he realizes he wants to destroy the clan. They both will be trying to use the other. Kiro will be oblivious to the fact that Danzo wants the eyes of all the Uchiha. Danzo on the other hand would be the key to Kiro receiving power from Orochimaru. In the end, they both still get part of what they want. The complete annihilation of the Uchiha clan! It’s not gonna be a good moment when Danzo and Orochimaru betray him right after... lel rip
“Complete annihalation”

(One survivor that tries to kill Danzo and kiro)
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Finish that phrase, I triple dog dare you!:)



They're going to change the terrain...in the middle of the ocean? No, scratch that, it wouldn't even matter because the Hōzuki can fuse with bodies of water to control them, even if they changed the terrain they'd have no way of telling apart the Hōzuki (in liquid form) from the normal water that was displaced.

Also, all that displaced land would flood their cities.

Don't even get me started on why Konoha wouldn't pollute the entire ocean in an attempt to flush out the Hōzuki.

Burying the city is something to be considered, though it wouldn't be an easy feat to bury a city hundreds of feet beneath the water, and that's assuming they even find the city...
None of that would happen. For example if they blocked off the city like this:
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And then pollute it, bury it, attack it, drain it, etc
 
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None of that would happen. For example if they walked off the city like this:
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And then pollute it, bury it, attack it, drain it, etc
Wouldn't polluting it eventually do more harm than good? Unless they keep up that wall forever the pollution will spread and harm the fishing grounds which harms the income of a chunk of the population, without healthy fishing grounds they would need to buy fish from other villages
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Wouldn't polluting it eventually do more harm than good? Unless they keep up that wall forever the pollution will spread and harm the fishing grounds which harms the income of a chunk of the population, without healthy fishing grounds they would need to buy fish from other villages

They can purify it after they are done flushing them out. And also, that’s just one of many tactics they could use with that wall scenario
 
None of that would happen. For example if they walked off the city like this:
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And then pollute it, bury it, attack it, drain it, etc
There's going to need far bigger walls to wall off a section of the ocean from the sea floor all the way up into air, and all the water displaced by those walls will be pushed outward. They'd also need to be hella sturdy because the Hōzuki would only need a small hole to liquify themselves and then escape unharmed.

The damage to the sea would've already been done since everything in that area would've been dead and the sea's ecosystem damaged. I'll give the pollution thing some thought, but the method of pollution is in question, it would need to be very specific, it can't be something like regular trash, since that wouldn't do anything, and it can't be anything like Poison because that'll get thrown back at them before the poison can even diffuse within the water.

The subsequent attack on the Hōzuki would be extremely difficult because they'd be firing straight into the pot of water they've now trapped the Hōzuki in, so the first thing they'll have to do is distinguish the Hōzuki from the normal sea water. They'd never get past that part since it's far too easy to permeate the water with enough chakra to confound the Sharingan and Byakugan, so they'd be going in blind hoping to get lucky.

Up to this point, all of this assumed the Hōzuki sit at the bottom of the ocean and twiddle their fingers while watching. They wouldn't even need to engage the leaf because a combined water jutsu from the entire clan would certainly be enough to at least put a crack in that wall, and being formless the Hōzuki would all escape through the crack and proceed to literally turn the entire ocean against their attackers.

We could also have turned the entire Ocean against them before they set up the wall since it's very unlikely they could catch the Hōzuki by surprise given their...oneness with the terrain.
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
There's going to need far bigger walls to wall off a section of the ocean from the sea floor all the way up into air, and all the water displaced by those walls will be pushed outward. They'd also need to be hella sturdy because the Hōzuki would only need a small hole to liquify themselves and then escape unharmed.

The damage to the sea would've already been done since everything in that area would've been dead and the sea's ecosystem damaged. I'll give the pollution thing some thought, but the method of pollution is in question, it would need to be very specific, it can't be something like regular trash, since that wouldn't do anything, and it can't be anything like Poison because that'll get thrown back at them before the poison can even diffuse within the water.

The subsequent attack on the Hōzuki would be extremely difficult because they'd be firing straight into the pot of water they've now trapped the Hōzuki in, so the first thing they'll have to do is distinguish the Hōzuki from the normal sea water. They'd never get past that part since it's far too easy to permeate the water with enough chakra to confound the Sharingan and Byakugan, so they'd be going in blind hoping to get lucky.

Up to this point, all of this assumed the Hōzuki sit at the bottom of the ocean and twiddle their fingers while watching. They wouldn't even need to engage the leaf because a combined water jutsu from the entire clan would certainly be enough to at least put a crack in that wall, and being formless the Hōzuki would all escape through the crack and proceed to literally turn the entire ocean against their attackers.

We could also have turned the entire Ocean against them before they set up the wall since it's very unlikely they could catch the Hōzuki by surprise given their...oneness with the terrain.

But they would not bring just themselves. They would build things, from buildings, farms, to other things and neccities they would need. Everything they built there would be destroyed and or claimed by the leaf, with the chance of death of many Hozuki members, even if they are rather slippery.


Because the leaf comes from the land of fire, and thus has a multitude of fire style Justus to evaporate water, and if they had transformed into water would either mortally wound or kill several fleeing Hozuki for sure. And that’s not to say they don’t double reinforce the walls or have water style users try and keep them at bay, maximizing casualties
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
There's going to need far bigger walls to wall off a section of the ocean from the sea floor all the way up into air, and all the water displaced by those walls will be pushed outward. They'd also need to be hella sturdy because the Hōzuki would only need a small hole to liquify themselves and then escape unharmed.

The damage to the sea would've already been done since everything in that area would've been dead and the sea's ecosystem damaged. I'll give the pollution thing some thought, but the method of pollution is in question, it would need to be very specific, it can't be something like regular trash, since that wouldn't do anything, and it can't be anything like Poison because that'll get thrown back at them before the poison can even diffuse within the water.

The subsequent attack on the Hōzuki would be extremely difficult because they'd be firing straight into the pot of water they've now trapped the Hōzuki in, so the first thing they'll have to do is distinguish the Hōzuki from the normal sea water. They'd never get past that part since it's far too easy to permeate the water with enough chakra to confound the Sharingan and Byakugan, so they'd be going in blind hoping to get lucky.

Up to this point, all of this assumed the Hōzuki sit at the bottom of the ocean and twiddle their fingers while watching. They wouldn't even need to engage the leaf because a combined water jutsu from the entire clan would certainly be enough to at least put a crack in that wall, and being formless the Hōzuki would all escape through the crack and proceed to literally turn the entire ocean against their attackers.

We could also have turned the entire Ocean against them before they set up the wall since it's very unlikely they could catch the Hōzuki by surprise given their...oneness with the terrain.

Also
The different types Of pollution such as:
Oxygen depletion pollution, which is as it says draining oxygen or lack of oxygen in water, which something tells me living beings need. Microbiological pollution, which puts a plethora of different viruses into the water that attack at living things, making quite the many places uninhabitable. Chemical water pollution, which is self explanatory.
 
But they would not bring just themselves. They would build things, from buildings, farms, to other things and neccities they would need. Everything they built there would be destroyed and or claimed by the leaf, with the chance of death of many Hozuki members, even if they are rather slippery.


Because the leaf comes from the land of fire, and thus has a multitude of fire style Justus to evaporate water, and if they had transformed into water would either mortally wound or kill several fleeing Hozuki for sure. And that’s not to say they don’t double reinforce the walls or have water style users try and keep them at bay, maximizing casualties
We have very different interpretations of this underwater kingdom thing, nowhere in my mind had the Hōzuki taken up underwater agriculture, though the buildings are a point of contention.

Again, this assumes the Hōzuki sit still and let them do all this. Water style trumps fire style, and between induced Rain, Mist, genjutsu, and straight up creating water out of chakra, evaporating an entire section of the Ocean would in no way be an easy task. The clan wouldn't be bunched up into one tiny corner of the ocean, the amount of water they'd trap and then need to evaporate would be the equivalent of a great lake.

It'd be a fierce battle and a pyrrhic victory for the leaf at best. The very Mist surrounding the area would be a genjutsu onto itself, and would very easily sow chaos among the very large group of people required to carry out this task. While the Leaf are evaporating the ocean, I'd be very willing to screw them over by adding slight pushes and assisting them in invoking a force of nature.

Also
The different types Of pollution such as:
Oxygen depletion pollution, which is as it says draining oxygen or lack of oxygen in water, which something tells me living beings need. Microbiological pollution, which puts a plethora of different viruses into the water that attack at living things, making quite the many places uninhabitable. Chemical water pollution, which is self explanatory.
I'd really like to see how the leaf pulls off the myriad of these pollutions, though water deoxygenation wouldn't be an issue, that can be restored just as effectively as the leaf can deplete it.

Microbiological pollution? They'd...never be able to contain that they'd kill more of their own population in the long run than they would Hōzuki.

Chemical pollution I will take into account.
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
We have very different interpretations of this underwater kingdom thing, nowhere in my mind had the Hōzuki taken up underwater agriculture, though the buildings are a point of contention.

Again, this assumes the Hōzuki sit still and let them do all this. Water style trumps fire style, and between induced Rain, Mist, genjutsu, and straight up creating water out of chakra, evaporating an entire section of the Ocean would in no way be an easy task. The clan wouldn't be bunched up into one tiny corner of the ocean, the amount of water they'd trap and then need to evaporate would be the equivalent of a great lake.

It'd be a fierce battle and a pyrrhic victory for the leaf at best. The very Mist surrounding the area would be a genjutsu onto itself, and would very easily sow chaos among the very large group of people required to carry out this task. While the Leaf are evaporating the ocean, I'd be very willing to screw them over by adding slight pushes and assisting them in invoking a force of nature.


I'd really like to see how the leaf pulls off the myriad of these pollutions, though water deoxygenation wouldn't be an issue, that can be restored just as effectively as the leaf can deplete it.

Microbiological pollution? They'd...never be able to contain that they'd kill more of their own population in the long run than they would Hōzuki.

Chemical pollution I will take into account.

Except also they could erect those walls and then raise the ground, forking them out of the ocean and landlocking them, keeping the walls intact. So they’d basically be a net grabbing the city and populace out of their element and entrapped in the unfavorable conditions before being scorched and polluted out of existence, or at least to suffer many casualties.

Not to mention if we even got to the first step of this it would severely hurt the relations of the leaf and mist so much that it could cause a war and a response from Mei to the Hozuki, both things the Hozuki dont want.

If they do the stealth idea Jin made then they wouldn’t have to worry about leaf interfernace that way or a potential war. So just colonizing it out of the blue would be FAR more troublesome
 
Except also they could erect those walls and then raise the ground, forking them out of the ocean and landlocking them, keeping the walls intact. So they’d basically be a net grabbing the city and populace out of their element and entrapped in the unfavorable conditions before being scorched and polluted out of existence, or at least to suffer many casualties.

Not to mention if we even got to the first step of this it would severely hurt the relations of the leaf and mist so much that it could cause a war and a response from Mei to the Hozuki, both things the Hozuki dont want.

If they do the stealth idea Jin made then they wouldn’t have to worry about leaf interfernace that way or a potential war. So just colonizing it out of the blue would be FAR more troublesome
That's already a massive amount of chakra, and the key point is that the volume of water wouldn't have changed in the slightest, they'd simply have taken a lake's worth of water and elevated it.

They'd still face all the aforementioned problems, and more. The Hōzuki are just as capable of using the other natures as normal shinobi, they simply have a greater affinity for Water release. The amount of chakra they'd need to spend to not only create their trap but keep it running would be massive and a constant tax on their chakra levels. The minute they slip the Hōzuki are going to earth release their way out of that trap and the leaf would've expended much effort and gotten little in return.

The Mist village is the single hardest village to besiege not because of their sheer power but because of the versatility of the jutsu available to them, I'm not gonna say anything since I don't want to give you any ideas. But let's just say they'll run out of chakra before they're even half done with what they're attempting to do.

Given that the Hōzuki don't antagonize the Land of Fire, they would very happily ignore them because expelling them simply wouldn't be worth the price they'd need to pay.

The Leaf would be the aggressors in this case.

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As you can see, Konohagakure is located very far inland, and to trudge all the way over to the ocean to pick a fight with a clan that hasn't been antagonizing them (because...why would they?) really wouldn't give them any high ground to argue from. It would've been a war the Leaf would've started.

The Leaf is so far inland that performing the exact same thing they plan to help Jin with in the harbor by casting genjutsu, would be FAR FAR easier to do by simply having a genjutsu Mist lingering around wherever they decide to settle. Being in the middle of the Ocean and close to the Land of water, renown for its Mists, the Mists would be perfectly normal and no one would find it strange.

Since their Genjutsu would be incorporated into the very terrain itself, and the only people frequenting the middle of the ocean would generally be normal fishermen, the genjutsu would easily conceal their presence. Any Ninja passing through would have to go out of their way to be looking for the Hōzuki clan to have any real chance of interaction with them.

Unless the Hōzuki for some reason start initiating interaction with foreign Ninja or slaughtering civilians the Leaf would be kept in the dark the entire time. Furthermore, any ninja passing through the water in the direction of the Mist village is either an enemy on a mission to the Mist for nefarious purposes, in which case them dying would be literally no issue at all. Or diplomats, and the Hōzuki could easily play the role of 'Welcoming the Guests.'
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
That's already a massive amount of chakra, and the key point is that the volume of water wouldn't have changed in the slightest, they'd simply have taken a lake's worth of water and elevated it.

They'd still face all the aforementioned problems, and more. The Hōzuki are just as capable of using the other natures as normal shinobi, they simply have a greater affinity for Water release. The amount of chakra they'd need to spend to not only create their trap but keep it running would be massive and a constant tax on their chakra levels. The minute they slip the Hōzuki are going to earth release their way out of that trap and the leaf would've expended much effort and gotten little in return.

The Mist village is the single hardest village to besiege not because of their sheer power but because of the versatility of the jutsu available to them, I'm not gonna say anything since I don't want to give you any ideas. But let's just say they'll run out of chakra before they're even half done with what they're attempting to do.

Given that the Hōzuki don't antagonize the Land of Fire, they would very happily ignore them because expelling them simply wouldn't be worth the price they'd need to pay.

The Leaf would be the aggressors in this case.

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As you can see, Konohagakure is located very far inland, and to trudge all the way over to the ocean to pick a fight with a clan that hasn't been antagonizing them (because...why would they?) really wouldn't give them any high ground to argue from. It would've been a war the Leaf would've started.

The Leaf is so far inland that performing the exact same thing they plan to help Jin with in the harbor by casting genjutsu, would be FAR FAR easier to do by simply having a genjutsu Mist lingering around wherever they decide to settle. Being in the middle of the Ocean and close to the Land of water, renown for its Mists, the Mists would be perfectly normal and no one would find it strange.

Since their Genjutsu would be incorporated into the very terrain itself, and the only people frequenting the middle of the ocean would generally be normal fishermen, the genjutsu would easily conceal their presence. Any Ninja passing through would have to go out of their way to be looking for the Hōzuki clan to have any real chance of interaction with them.

Unless the Hōzuki for some reason start initiating interaction with foreign Ninja or slaughtering civilians the Leaf would be kept in the dark the entire time. Furthermore, any ninja passing through the water in the direction of the Mist village is either an enemy on a mission to the Mist for nefarious purposes, in which case them dying would be literally no issue at all. Or diplomats, and the Hōzuki could easily play the role of 'Welcoming the Guests.'

Hmmm your right about that defendable position there, I better make a note of that for the mist later. Although I was talking about them destroying the outpost/takeover of their harbor town rather than their city, which even so they can utterly destroy said city, as no single clan can take on an entire nation.

They would mainly be slippery, although the leaf would take back what is there’s. It’s a matter of the point of the entire mission being irrelevant if momma bear Kohona takes back it’s cubs. That’s why the genjustu plan is a thing. I think your combative nature outwardly toward Jin is rubbing off on your Oc’s lol.
 
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