Private/Closed Fiction Crossover

[comic]

We need to sort this out. What is his berserker strength?

dunno.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

dunno.

That’s important. Before we fling a power up out of nowhere we have to decide how strong it is going to be and how he actually gets this power out of nowhere

 

[comic]

That’s important. Before we fling a power up out of nowhere we have to decide how strong it is going to be and how he actually gets this power out of nowhere

what i said was my answer, Shen.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

what i said was my answer, Shen.

...Comic you realize how that sounds right?

How strong would you compare it to? How is this mode triggered? What’s stopping it from being abused?

 

[comic]

...Comic you realize how that sounds right?

How strong would you compare it to? How is this mode triggered? What’s stopping it from being abused?

oh, it can totally be abused, Shen.
i'm gonna abuse it all the time.
first, Doomslayer will bust outta the containment sphere, then he'll tear timeman in half, before storming specter's ship, destroying all the defenses, and ripping specter's head from his shoulders before kale can even blink.
it's gonna be so much fun, yo.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

oh, it can totally be abused, Shen.
i'm gonna abuse it all the time.
first, Doomslayer will bust outta the containment sphere, then he'll tear timeman in half, before storming specter's ship, destroying all the defenses, and ripping specter's head from his shoulders before kale can even blink.
it's gonna be so much fun, yo.

I’m trying to find a solution to a problem with you, your sass isn’t appreciated.

 

[Mechanist Gamma]

Yeah, Comic, that's kind of a problem... If Beserker Mode is just "Doomslayer's OP now get with the program" then I can't agree to its usage. We need to set limits, or Doomslayer, despite what you've said before, is just going to become Doom Slayer.

 

[comic]

I’m trying to find a solution to a problem with you, your sass isn’t appreciated.

isn't sass, bro.
stop throwing around accusations, man. i don't see any problems 'round here except a lack of replies so far today in the rp.
on another note, the Doomslayer's Berserker Rage technically has no known limits. he becomes incredibly powerful and invincible during it. however, i'm cutting it short a bit. lessening it's time it can be used, as well as adding some stamina to Flynn so he's worn after using it. alongside this, he can only tap into this at rare opportune times. this is his first time using it in the rp, so don't get butt-hurt over it, bro.
everything will work out fine in the end.
i get you think of all these 'problems', but let's be real.
the real problem here is how annoyingly long this is taking, hence berserker rage.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

isn't sass, bro.
stop throwing around accusations, man. i don't see any problems 'round here

Doomslayer's Berserker Rage technically has no known limits. he becomes incredibly powerful and invincible

These do NOT go together...

I whole heartedly disagree with this asspull...I didn’t even know why is even neccisary let alone actually becoming invincible and having no limits. He just became the ultimate Mary Sue

 

[comic]

These do NOT go together...

I whole heartedly disagree with this asspull...I didn’t even know why is even neccisary let alone actually becoming invincible and having no limits. He just became the ultimate Mary Sue

hm. i see you didn't take into consideration the effort i put into adding limitations to berserker rage.
whelp. that's a you problem, pal.
so i'm just gonna move on with my life while you continue to complain about a 'problem' already solved.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

hm. i see you didn't take into consideration the effort i put into adding limitations to berserker rage.
whelp. that's a you problem, pal.
so i'm just gonna move on with my life while you continue to complain about a 'problem' already solved.

You can’t just disregard what all of us are saying and just instawin anything you so choose. That’s not how an RP works. We are suppose to hash out a best solution for the betterment of the RP, not your way or the highway.

 

[Godjacob]

so i'm just gonna move on with my life while you continue to complain about a 'problem' already solved.

Doesn't sound like the problem has been solved from what I've been reading.

 

[Mechanist Gamma]

the Doomslayer's Berserker Rage technically has no known limits. he becomes incredibly powerful and invincible during it. however, i'm cutting it short a bit. lessening it's time it can be used, as well as adding some stamina to Flynn so he's worn after using it. alongside this, he can only tap into this at rare opportune times. this is his first time using it in the rp, so don't get butt-hurt over it, bro.
everything will work out fine in the end.

adding limitations to berserker rage

...power cap?
What's his physical limit?
When you say invincible, do you mean INVINCIBLE?
Because as far as I can see, you're giving him a Super form he can use on command.

 

[comic]

You can’t just disregard what all of us are saying and just instawin anything you so choose. That’s not how an RP works. We are suppose to hash out a best solution for the betterment of the RP, not your way or the highway.

and we did.
sorry pal, but i just don't really see what your problem is.
i set limitations, i made it pretty clear, but in typical shen fashion, you disregarded all of that and decided to continue the rant.
so it's not worth arguing over something that's been solved.
and...
oh boy.
okay, none of you apparently know how to read.
alright, lemme just quote myself here;

the Doomslayer's Berserker Rage technically has no known limits. he becomes incredibly powerful and invincible during it. however, i'm cutting it short a bit. lessening it's time it can be used, as well as adding some stamina to Flynn so he's worn after using it. alongside this, he can only tap into this at rare opportune times. this is his first time using it in the rp, so don't get butt-hurt over it, bro.

if that's not clear enough, i don't know what to tell you all.
i guess you'll just have to accept that i know what i'm doing.
because i do.

 

[Godjacob]

and we did.
sorry pal, but i just don't really see what your problem is.
i set limitations, i made it pretty clear, but in typical shen fashion, you disregarded all of that and decided to continue the rant.
so it's not worth arguing over something that's been solved.
and...
oh boy.
okay, none of you apparently know how to read.
alright, lemme just quote myself here;

if that's not clear enough, i don't know what to tell you all.
i guess you'll just have to accept that i know what i'm doing.
because i do.

Everything about this sounds vague as hell cause I have no sense of how strong this "Berserker" boost actually is.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

OooOkay...I’m calling Code red

@The Bog Hog would you mind weighing in on this? We’ve got a situation

 

[Mokko]

I’m pretty sure this whole thing could be resolved if we had a general idea of how long the boost itself actually lasted. For all we know, Comic could intend it to last for like, a minute just so that Doomslayer can bust out and this boss battle thing can conclude.

 

[Mechanist Gamma]

Not well enough, apparently. The only difference between a Super form and what you're giving us for Berserker rage is that a Super form restores the user at peak condition and requires the Seven Chaos Emeralds to be achieved. So give us some durability and power limits. As insane as some of my characters - i.e. Silver - can be, there are limits. In terms of offense and defense, Berserker rage seems to have none. THAT'S our problem with it. Adding a time limit does nothing to help. Berserker mode, with the EXTREMELY vague way you currently have it described, allows you to make Doomslayer as jacked as you want whenever you want. And that really doesn't fly.
When it comes to the Time Man fight having gone on long enough? I'll concede that. Doesn't mean you should just suddenly turn Doomslayer into Super Doomslayer Except Doesn't Need Any Chaos Emeralds to end the fight. Cut Man already has a plan to shut things down, and in a few posts the battleship will be dealt with. I've already had problems with you just creating a composite Doomslayer for reasons exactly like this. I'm not opposed to composite characters, but the Berserker rage NEEDS to be specified, otherwise it's a "free power wank" button for you to use on Doomslayer whenever you want.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

I’m pretty sure this whole thing could be resolved if we had a general idea of how long the boost itself actually lasted. For all we know, Comic could intend it to last for like, a minute just so that Doomslayer can bust out and this boss battle thing can conclude.

Invincibility period is a huge red flag. Adding immeasurable power along with apparently ‘no limits’ that can be triggered at will

 

[Godjacob]

I’m pretty sure this whole thing could be resolved if we had a general idea of how long the boost itself actually lasted. For all we know, Comic could intend it to last for like, a minute just so that Doomslayer can bust out and this boss battle thing can conclude.

IDK if having Doomslayer one shot the boss like this is appealing to me XD. Hiro's not just there to stand (Or float) around XD

 

[comic]

heh
alright.
here's my solution to the problem.
quit throwin' a fit. i've set some obvious limitations.
but if you're all so keen on a strength and durability check...
yes. he's invincible. that's the whole point. have none of you played doom? that's kinda the thing about berserker rage. he's powerful enough to rip and tear just about any demon in one fell swoop, so he's pretty tough.
also, he can only tap into his berserker rage under special circumstances, which are these;
1. he has enough argent energy to use, which a massive dose grants him this 10 second like ability.
2. he's angry enough. doomslayer has to be pissed enough to actually be willing to spend that much argent energy.
3. i'm not giving a set time for cool down, but let's say it's between thirty minutes to a few hours, depending on how spent he is.
does that satisfy ya'll, or do you have something else you wanna complain about?

 

[Godjacob]

yes. he's invincible. that's the whole point. have none of you played doom? that's kinda the thing about berserker rage. he's powerful enough to rip and tear just about any demon in one fell swoop, so he's pretty tough.

But again the Doom demons are kinda weak sause (Actually very weak sause). Just feels like wanking to me when it could be a bit more reasonable of a power boost rather than clear cut "invincibility."

IDK, we'll see what happens I suppose. I just have reservations.

 

[Mechanist Gamma]

No concrete strength check, but the invincibility part doesn't completely satisfy me. Even Super Sonic, who's described to be "invincible", DID get hurt from a charged attack from Dark Gaia. Doomslayer needs to be able to be hurt by SOMETHING, and there has to be SOMETHING he can't destroy with his bare fists.
Also uh... wasn't the reason we got Doomslayer captured in the first place to stop this exact thing from happening?
Though if it only lasts for ten seconds, I suppose it'd be fine. Super forms last for a few minutes and all, so the insanely short time limit MIGHT balance it out.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

heh
alright.
here's my solution to the problem.
quit throwin' a fit. i've set some obvious limitations.
but if you're all so keen on a strength and durability check...
yes. he's invincible. that's the whole point. have none of you played doom? that's kinda the thing about berserker rage. he's powerful enough to rip and tear just about any demon in one fell swoop, so he's pretty tough.
also, he can only tap into his berserker rage under special circumstances, which are these;
1. he has enough argent energy to use, which a massive dose grants him this 10 second like ability.
2. he's angry enough. doomslayer has to be pissed enough to actually be willing to spend that much argent energy.
3. i'm not giving a set time for cool down, but let's say it's between thirty minutes to a few hours, depending on how spent he is.
does that satisfy ya'll, or do you have something else you wanna complain about?

Your...attitude is atrocious

0.5. This Doomslayer is not Doom slayer, so he hasn’t used it in that context per say

1. How can we tell those energy levels? They have never been brought up until now

2. Anger isn’t an actual limit

3. Using it every half hour isn’t nearly a limit either.

 

[Godjacob]

Also I heard something of a Jackal vs. Erza fight. Not familiar as much with that character and where he comes from so some context would be appreciated. Apologies.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

No concrete strength check, but the invincibility part doesn't completely satisfy me. Even Super Sonic, who's described to be "invincible", DID get hurt from a charged attack from Dark Gaia.

Not to mention that it was outright defeated by Eggman in the same game and drained of all his energy. And that’s AFTER going to claim these 7 powerful and hard to find gems

 

[comic]

hm?
what's that?
you guys still aren't satisfied?
okay. well, it seems it's my job to provide you with the last filling cookie, so sure. why not?
also, before i go into this, Jacob.
stop.
stop.
no, the demons are not 'weak'.
you've been tricked by doom.
just because the doomslayer makes it look easy doesn't mean it is.
they annihilated the uac.
and before you claim the uac is also weak, that would be a very uneducated and biased opinion. at their weakest, they'd be comparable to the United States Army in WWII. at their strongest, an equivalent of the UNSC. now that they've been set in power, the demons destroyed them nearly effortlessly. maybe the humans will put up a better fight in DOOM: ETERNAL, i dunno. it looks like they will, so that's cool.
this means the demons are more powerful than the Covenant.
c'mon, man, you're supposed to be the smart one, so why aren't you using that noggin of yours?
anyway, doom rant concluded, moving on.
when i say invincible, i mean invincible. to demons.
who knows what kind of damage a character like Z or Jack could do to Flynn, even in a Berserker rage? the rage grants invulnerability to demons. moving on.
as for my attitude, i see nothing wrong with it shen. you're the one blowing up. i'm just trying to give you some info, not like you'd ever do that, right?

1. How can we tell those energy levels? They have never been brought up until now

...yes they have.

2. Anger isn’t an actual limit

never said anger was, just everything else. come on, bro, read some.

Using it every half hour isn’t nearly a limit either.

not limited to a half hour. you seriously gotta learn to read and stop skimming things just to throw a fit, bro. it's unprofessional.

Also I heard something of a Jackal vs. Erza fight. Not familiar as much with that character and where he comes from so some context would be appreciated. Apologies.

actually, it's Jack.
Jack is a diverse character. despite him being a very high tier, he isn't creative with his power, so despite his tier being so high, he never actually reaches his full potential. he also has anger problems and isn't very skilled at swordplay, meaning all of these negative attributes would allow Erza to take on Jack in a fight and hold her own. Jack is flexible though, so add in more fighters, and he'll fight harder. he's fun to use, anyway.

 

[Godjacob]

hm?
what's that?
you guys still aren't satisfied?
okay. well, it seems it's my job to provide you with the last filling cookie, so sure. why not?
also, before i go into this, Jacob.
stop.
stop.
no, the demons are not 'weak'.
you've been tricked by doom.
just because the doomslayer makes it look easy doesn't mean it is.
they annihilated the uac.
and before you claim the uac is also weak, that would be a very uneducated and biased opinion. at their weakest, they'd be comparable to the United States Army in WWII. at their strongest, an equivalent of the UNSC. now that they've been set in power, the demons destroyed them nearly effortlessly. maybe the humans will put up a better fight in DOOM: ETERNAL, i dunno. it looks like they will, so that's cool.
this means the demons are more powerful than the Covenant.
c'mon, man, you're supposed to be the smart one, so why aren't you using that noggin of yours?
anyway, doom rant concluded, moving on.
when i say invincible, i mean invincible. to demons.
who knows what kind of damage a character like Z or Jack could do to Flynn, even in a Berserker rage? the rage grants invulnerability to demons. moving on.
as for my attitude, i see nothing wrong with it shen. you're the one blowing up. i'm just trying to give you some info, not like you'd ever do that, right?

Okay there is no proof that the UAC is anywhere near UNSC levels. You even mentioned yourself that Chief has beaten more impressive things than the Doom demons yet now you seem to be doing a 180 on that.

This is a prime example of wanking to me. The Doom demons are squishy and based on what they actually do not that impressive.

actually, it's Jack.
Jack is a diverse character. despite him being a very high tier, he isn't creative with his power, so despite his tier being so high, he never actually reaches his full potential. he also has anger problems and isn't very skilled at swordplay, meaning all of these negative attributes would allow Erza to take on Jack in a fight and hold her own. Jack is flexible though, so add in more fighters, and he'll fight harder. he's fun to use, anyway.

How high a tier are we talking?

 

[Mechanist Gamma]

Well, that wasn't so much a defeat of Super Sonic itself, but Eggman overloading the Chaos Emeralds' output for his world-destruction cannon. See, while the Chaos Emeralds do individually have unlimited energy, they have a limit they can output at a certain time. This is why the Chaos Emeralds can be restored by the Gaia Temples. What Eggman did with that trap was hold Super Sonic in place with an energy wave (which the pain stopped Sonic from concentrating long enough to teleport away using Chaos Control) and drain the Chaos Emeralds. Luckily for him, the Chaos Emeralds held out until Eggman was done. However, since the Emeralds were being forced to provide energy to the cannon and were only being used by Sonic, the connection with Sonic keeping him as Super Sonic was broken due to how much strain was being placed on the Emeralds. Eggman didn't defeat Super Sonic, he tricked Super Sonic, powered him down to regular Sonic, and tossed out the drained Werehog Sonic. I guess some of the Dark Gaia energy went back into the cannon like a feedback loop and that transformed Sonic. That part's still iffy to me.

who knows what kind of damage a character like Z or Jack could do to Flynn, even in a Berserker rage? the rage grants invulnerability to demons. moving on.

...wait, specifically demons? Oh. Alright then, invulnerability problem solved.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

not limited to a half hour. you seriously gotta learn to read and stop skimming things just to throw a fit, bro. it's unprofessional.

I’m not throwing a fit. You know what would be? Hurling insults and condescendence towards those that are trying to help you, your character, and work towards the betterment of this RP as a whole. We are trying to work something out with you as civilized as possible. Godjacob is an intelligent RPer, one of the past I have ever seen let alone on this sight. Eevechu is passionate and delivers excellent detail and setting into every post he makes. I won’t tolerate you demeaning them.

 

[comic]

Okay there is no proof that the UAC is anywhere near UNSC levels. You even mentioned yourself that Chief has beaten more impressive things than the Doom demons yet now you seem to be doing a 180 on that.

This is a prime example of wanking to me. The Doom demons are squishy and based on what they actually do not that impressive.



How high a tier are we talking?

never said doomslayer did more impressive things in my post, did i?
chief saved the galaxy. twice.
pretty impressive, but even still, doomslayer could destroy chief in a 1v1. no guns, no abilities, just a brutal fistfight.

I’m not throwing a fit. You know what would be? Hurling insults and condescendence towards those that are trying to help you, your character, and work towards the betterment of this RP as a whole. We are trying to work something out with you as civilized as possible. Godjacob is an intelligent RPer, one of the past I have ever seen let alone on this sight. Eevechu is passionate and delivers excellent detail and setting into every post he makes. I won’t tolerate you demeaning them.

okay then. don't. nobody's stopping you man. don't tolerate it.
but it was YOU i was demeaning, pal. we don't get a long a lot, and... i had a hard time figuring out why, until i realized that out personalities clash, but we also have a lot in common. i won't bother going into detail right now, but i respect the other two, though jacob has already stated he skims (hence he had no idea who jack was), and i didn't actually say anything to eevee this whole time.
i get you're trying to sound like a hero and stand up for your pals, but you're just making the situation worse.
so sit back. relax. take a deep breath and type out your next post while thinking about puppies. and kittens.
especially kittens.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

okay then. don't. nobody's stopping you man. don't tolerate it.
but it was YOU i was demeaning, pal. we don't get a long a lot, and... i had a hard time figuring out why, until i realized that out personalities clash, but we also have a lot in common. i won't bother going into detail right now, but i respect the other two, though jacob has already stated he skims (hence he had no idea who jack was), and i didn't actually say anything to eevee this whole time.
i get you're trying to sound like a hero and stand up for your pals, but you're just making the situation worse.
so sit back. relax. take a deep breath and type out your next post while thinking about puppies. and kittens.
especially kittens.

I’m not trying to be a hero. I’m simply not tolerating this type of attitude in the Rp. Stating that your character can become invincible and OP and telling us all to stuff it is a horrid way of going about things and sets dismal example for anyone who would god forbid try and copy what your trying to pull. If everyone had that attitude, this RP would have fallen long ago.

 

[comic]

I’m not trying to be a hero. I’m simply not tolerating this type of attitude in the Rp. Stating that your character can become invincible and OP and telling us all to stuff it is a horrid way of going about things and sets dismal example for anyone who would god forbid try and copy what your trying to pull. If everyone had that attitude, this RP would have fallen long ago.

ooooooh.
i see what's going on here.
you're just mad because Doomslayer clearly overshadows Specter, and you don't like that.
you're jealous.
eh, that's fine. i don't really care.
but as for the rest of you. what makes you think i'm gonna actually go about this unfairly? i'm a good roleplayer, and the quality of my work is pretty damn decent in my opinion, so i don't get why you think i'm gonna go off the rails with these characters.
i'm flexible.
i just mostly like trolling shen, because he's easy to make throw fits. prove me wrong. i dare you. no balls.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

ooooooh.
i see what's going on here.
you're just mad because Doomslayer clearly overshadows Specter, and you don't like that.
you're jealous.
eh, that's fine. i don't really care.
but as for the rest of you. what makes you think i'm gonna actually go about this unfairly? i'm a good roleplayer, and the quality of my work is pretty damn decent in my opinion, so i don't get why you think i'm gonna go off the rails with these characters.
i'm flexible.
i just mostly like trolling shen, because he's easy to make throw fits. prove me wrong. i dare you. no balls.

To be frank, I could care less about Specter currently. All I care is about a fair, balanced, and fun Rp. For everyone. Not just Comic. And I simply cannot rely you being a ‘good Roleplayer’ as the only line between that VERY thin fabric of balance to break open. And any attempt to instigate an emotional outburst will not succeed

 

[comic]

To be frank, I could care less about Specter currently. All I care is about a fair, balanced, and fun Rp. For everyone. Not just Comic. And I simply cannot rely you being a ‘good Roleplayer’ as the only line between that VERY thin fabric of balance to break open. And any attempt to instigate an emotional outburst will not succeed

uh, actually, i've managed to make you pretty frantic with your words at times. just because say you don't have emotional outbursts doesn't make it true.
regardless, i don't roleplay for myself, so by making this 'all about comic' is a pretty false accusation. when i roleplay, i do it so that other people will read what i have. i like it when people talk about things like this, a collaborative work.
regardless, Shen, i've been trolling since day one, and i'll keep doing so to make you freak out.
because it's fun, and nobody can tell me no.
as for trusting me with how i handle my characters?
whelp.
you're just gonna have to trust me on that one, kid.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

uh, actually, i've managed to make you pretty frantic with your words at times. just because say you don't have emotional outbursts doesn't make it true.
regardless, i don't roleplay for myself, so by making this 'all about comic' is a pretty false accusation. when i roleplay, i do it so that other people will read what i have. i like it when people talk about things like this, a collaborative work.
regardless, Shen, i've been trolling since day one, and i'll keep doing so to make you freak out.
because it's fun, and nobody can tell me no.
as for trusting me with how i handle my characters?
whelp.
you're just gonna have to trust me on that one, kid.

Regardless. My point still stands.

 

[comic]

Regardless. My point still stands.

really? because, correct me if i'm wrong, but your point is over a topic already solved, and this conversation has solely been continuing because i want it to.
the reason why is because i'm messing with you shen.
fight. rise above it.
if you don't reply to this post, i just might shed a tear out of pride that you've finally matured past my trolling.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

really? because, correct me if i'm wrong, but your point is over a topic already solved, and this conversation has solely been continuing because i want it to.
the reason why is because i'm messing with you shen.
fight. rise above it.
if you don't reply to this post, i just might shed a tear out of pride that you've finally matured past my trolling.

K.

Onto matters of concerns

@Godjacob what is Azula up to as of now?

 

[Mokko]

really? because, correct me if i'm wrong, but your point is over a topic already solved, and this conversation has solely been continuing because i want it to.
the reason why is because i'm messing with you shen.
fight. rise above it.
if you don't reply to this post, i just might shed a tear out of pride that you've finally matured past my trolling.

Edit: That did not work

 

[comic]

K.

Onto matters of concerns

@Godjacob what is Azula up to as of now?

D:
you've failed your test, young one.
but i still hold hope that one day you will mature past this aggressive stage of futility and rage.