Private/Closed Naruto AU RP: discussion

[Godjacob]

He was a slippery little sucker in canon lol. But deidara’s explosive would have killed him if he didn’t go too far away. So sheer power can work as well

Do we have proof of this? He survived Konan's Paper Bomb ocean which was far more powerful.

 

[SageNeb]

as·sume
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verb

1. 1.
   suppose to be the case, without proof.
   
   That’s what y’all be doing rn

 

[Grand Master Koop]

I don’t remember very well but I don’t thinks his Kamui is all powerful

 

[SageNeb]

Do we have proof of this? He survived Konan's Paper Bomb ocean which was far more powerful.

AGAIN! IZANAGI

 

[Godjacob]

AGAIN! IZANAGI

Well if we go the power route. That just means I need to give my character equivalent to nukes just to deal with Kamui. Easy peasy /s

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

AGAIN! IZANAGI

He has a point

 

[Godjacob]

And Kamui would have survived that. We saw he can put his whole body in there and the explosion didn't last that long.

 

[SageNeb]

Outsmart him could work. Kamui is not invulnerable to tactics

 

[Grand Master Koop]

You know, I don’t think you need teleportation to defeat The Kamui, if a character is fast enough, I think they’ll be able to react in time to counter tobi

 

[SageNeb]

And Kamui would have survived that. We saw he can put his whole body in there and the explosion didn't last that long.

No proof not fact

 

[kyuukestu]

Do we have proof of this? He survived Konan's Paper Bomb ocean which was far more powerful.

He didn't survive, he revived.

 

[SageNeb]

You know, I don’t think you need teleportation to defeat The Kamui, if a character is fast enough, I think they’ll be able to react in time to counter tobi

That’s not the issue

 

[Godjacob]

No proof not fact

Obito can hide in Kamui for a few minutes. The reason Konan's plan would have worked around that is she had her explosions last far beyond that time limit cause she knew how it worked. Which no one else does.

 

[Grand Master Koop]

That’s not the issue

Then what is

 

[Godjacob]

You know, I don’t think you need teleportation to defeat The Kamui, if a character is fast enough, I think they’ll be able to react in time to counter tobi

This is fair enough. Though he reacted to characters like Kyuubi Cloak Naruto. So the speed needed to get around that is ridiculous.

 

[SageNeb]

Then what is

Intangibility

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Obito can hide in Kamui for a few minutes. The reason Konan's plan would have worked around that is she had her explosions last far beyond that time limit cause she knew how it worked. Which no one else does.

I’d imagine characters with ‘special means’ could get around this issue.

Take Hidan’s death possession blood, Constant Area denial (like tidal waves, sand tsunamis, or explosions), speed, or space time abilities

 

[Grand Master Koop]

Yeah, I’m pretty sure people can counter it with speed and strategy

 

[SageNeb]

Obito can hide in Kamui for a few minutes. The reason Konan's plan would have worked around that is she had her explosions last far beyond that time limit cause she knew how it worked. Which no one else does.

This post literally just disproves your point that kamui could’ve saved him congratulations

 

[SageNeb]

Yeah, I’m pretty sure people can counter it with speed and strategy

How does speed help defeat untouchable person? Strategy I already said but how speed?

 

[Grand Master Koop]

Oh yeah, area effects could also potentially work against Tobi

 

[Godjacob]

Hidan’s death possession blood

He would never touch Obito.

But fair enough, if you all want Kamui in the story then fine. I won't stop you. Even if I personally dislike it and where it is gonna force this story to go.

This post literally just disproves your point that kamui could’ve saved him congratulations

How? Deidara's explosion lasts a minute at the very most. Kamui would last longer than that.

 

[SageNeb]

Shikimaru could’ve beat tobi

 

[Grand Master Koop]

How does speed help defeat untouchable person? Strategy I already said but how speed?

React right as the intangibility ends and attack before he can react

 

[SageNeb]

But fair enough, if you all want Kamui in the story then fine. I won't stop you. Even if I personally dislike it and where it is gonna force this story to go.

Technically I never said I wanted it

 

[Godjacob]

Shikimaru could’ve beat tobi

BS he could. Shadow Possession would never touch him. Tactics only go so far against this technique.

 

[SageNeb]

React right as the intangibility ends and attack before he can react

Thx for the idea trollololol

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

He would never touch Obito.

But fair enough, if you all want Kamui in the story then fine. I won't stop you. Even if I personally dislike it and where it is gonna force this story to go.



How? Deidara's explosion lasts a minute at the very most. Kamui would last longer than that.

Not to mention many people at once attacking Tobi. And let’s say area denial of poison gas, senbon rain, fire, etc in combo with any big technique. Let’s be honest here, non of our OC’s can beat Tobi alone. But teaming up?

 

[SageNeb]

BS he could. Shadow Possession would never touch him. Tactics only go so far against this technique.

Far enough to beat him. Shikimaru is smarter than konan and konan would’ve beat him if it weren’t for izanagi

 

[Godjacob]

Not to mention many people at once attacking Tobi. And let’s say area denial of poison gas, senbon rain, fire, etc in combo with any big technique. Let’s be honest here, non of our OC’s can beat Tobi alone. But teaming up?

Those would have to last for several minutes to be viable. Otherwise he could hide with Kamui and outlast it.

But like I said if you all want him we'll include him, just think this is gonna lead to some abuse and frustration in the future. But we'll see where it goes.

 

[SageNeb]

fire

XD

 

[SageNeb]

Technically I never said I wanted it

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Same.

 

[Godjacob]

Far enough to beat him. Shikimaru is smarter than konan and konan would’ve beat him if it weren’t for izanagi

Konan had knowledge of Kamui. Years, years of planning and the power for the technique.

 

[kyuukestu]

BS he could. Shadow Possession would never touch him. Tactics only go so far against this technique.

Hmmm, no this point has merit. Even while intangible he still has a shadow, Shadow Possession should work in theory.

 

[Godjacob]

Hmmm, no this point has merit. Even while intangible he still has a shadow, Shadow Possession should work in theory.

His body is literally in another world. There is nothing attached to his shadow there.

 

[Grand Master Koop]

Those would have to last for several minutes to be viable. Otherwise he could hide with Kamui and outlast it.

But like I said if you all want him we'll include him, just think this is gonna lead to some abuse and frustration in the future. But we'll see where it goes.

Well, that’s the point of his ability isn’t it? To be very useful

 

[Godjacob]

Well, that’s the point of his ability isn’t it? To be very useful

Just saying many of these "counters" you guys suggest are experimental at best and far, far from sure things as you all seem to present it is.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Just saying many of these "counters" you guys suggest are experimental at best and far, far from sure things as you all seem to present it is.

There’s also chakra usage to take into account on Tobi’s Part

 

[Grand Master Koop]

I get why you don’t like the Kamui due to its OPness, but it’s not invincible