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Private/Closed Naruto AU RP: discussion

First Exam:

  • Written exam

    Votes: 5 41.7%

  • ??? New exam

    Votes: 7 58.3%
  • Total voters
    12
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Shen: King of Digimon

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Godjacob said:
Not I agree with kyuu that not everyone needs to wet their pants just seeing Reaver, we are ninja. But in moments of struggle there should be moments where emotions other than composure leak through.
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I’m not saying everyone has to, that’s besides the point. I was responding to when she said she has no reason to fear him. It just adds to the monotoneness of the characters
 
kyuukestu

kyuukestu

Godjacob said:
Yeah, this is my big thing. Nothing that happens phases those characters. Even if a situation goes south for them, they have the exact same calm composed and practical mindset. The most we've gotten is Sagiso worrying about her sister being trapped in a cave for literally one post before going back to her usual attitude.

Doesn't make for good tension. Even Azumi had emotional bursts vs. Reaver. And she's the most practical of my cast. But just difference in styles I suppose.
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Eh, I can see your point, and my response is rather hard to formulate.
Godjacob said:
And that is a problem IMO. If there is no risk or fear that the character might not make it, there is no tension in the fight. And it undermines what the opponent tries to do.

It's not being a damsel vs. not being one. It's about momentary cracks of emotion beyond calm composure. Sagiso was literally chakra drained and being bearhugged by Kidomaru to death yet her demeanor never changed.

Even Reaver, a guy whose persona is built on being the big scary monster, had moments where that cracked when things got hard for him.
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There are two times my characters have ever been at risk of dying IMO, with Kidomaru, and with Reaver.

You could argue that Baiyan's demeanor didn't change, but saying Sagiso's didn't would be a flat out lie. She just didn't crack towards the route of fear as you seem to desire. She instead burst into an apoplectic rage after she'd spared Kidomaru's life and got her arm broken in return.

Shen: Ghost Gym Leader said:
Reaver is basically a giant metal killing machine with several bloodstained trophies all around his suit from people he has killed, alongside a brander that takes their own blood and makes a trophy. Not to mention a super deep voice with sawblade extensions amongst other things. That is a serious reason to be afraid. Even Kiro was deathly afraid of him.
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Except Baiyan's blind, she doesn't see a giant metal killing machine with a walking blade arsenal, because she can't see at all.

As far as she's concerned people are just voices to match with chakra signatures. The only thing she could identify from what you've described is his voice, and that's no reason to fear.
 
Shen: King of Digimon

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
kyuukestu said:
Except Baiyan's blind, she doesn't see a giant metal killing machine with a walking blade arsenal, because she can't see at all.

As far as she's concerned people are just voices to match with chakra signatures. The only thing she could identify from what you've described is his voice, and that's no reason to fear.
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Except that’s the thing. You pulled that she could see with the genjustu the whole time, and your saying she wasn’t. Can’t have your cake and eat it too. She could see him, very easily
 
Mystic Zander

Mystic Zander

Kind of in a predicament here. Didnt intend to take over the Tsuchikage completely. Someone unbiased wanna take control for the next part? Its okay if not, id still be willing to do it if no one else wanted to.
 
Retro Master

Retro Master

Nebulix said:
Well we're not really here to kill ocs so doesn't that mean your ocs will never feel fear?
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Friendly reminder that if anyone wants an OC killed off, I would be honored to have Kiro do the job :D
Shen: Ghost Gym Leader said:
Reaver is basically a giant metal killing machine with several bloodstained trophies all around his suit from people he has killed, alongside a brander that takes their own blood and makes a trophy. Not to mention a super deep voice with sawblade extensions amongst other things. That is a serious reason to be afraid. Even Kiro was deathly afraid of him.
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Kiro respects Reaver’s power but he never really fears him. In the cave, Kiro was weakened to the point where he could barely stand. However, he still wasn’t afraid to send threats Reaver’s way and try to fight back. Kiro really believed in himself then. Sure it was foolish of him to believe that he had a chance at beating Reaver, but Sagisō’s rescue really did put a dent in his pride. Good development tho :up:

In the retrieval arc, Kiro saw Reaver as a challenge and was prepared to take him head on. He was actually excited for the challenge until Mori ended it all with that dirty move lel

The only person Kiro is actually deathly afraid of is Hinagiku. The person he hates the most rn is Jin even though I personally love his backstory.
 
Shen: King of Digimon

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Retro Master said:
Friendly reminder that if anyone wants an OC killed off, I would be honored to have Kiro do the job :D

Kiro respects Reaver’s power but he never really fears him. In the cave, Kiro was weakened to the point where he could barely stand. However, he still wasn’t afraid to send threats Reaver’s way and try to fight back. Kiro really believed in himself then. Sure it was foolish of him to believe that he had a chance at beating Reaver, but Sagisō’s rescue really did put a dent in his pride. Good development tho :up:

In the retrieval arc, Kiro saw Reaver as a challenge and was prepared to take him head on. He was actually excited for the challenge until Mori ended it all with that dirty move lel

The only person Kiro is actually deathly afraid of is Hinagiku. The person he hates the most rn is Jin even though I personally love his backstory.
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I think Kiro began to hit the freak out button when reaver took a large sum of kiro’s blood and branded his headband with it XD.

I had no idea he was afraid of hinagiku.

Also thanks :) took a long long LONG time to finish though. Although that’s part 1 of the story.
 
Godjacob

Godjacob

kyuukestu said:
here are two times my characters have ever been at risk of dying IMO, with Kidomaru, and with Reaver.

You could argue that Baiyan's demeanor didn't change, but saying Sagiso's didn't would be a flat out lie. She just didn't crack towards the route of fear as you seem to desire. She instead burst into an apoplectic rage after she'd spared Kidomaru's life and got her arm broken in return.
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I don't desire for her to be afraid and break down crying every fight, I desire for her to show moments of weakness. Actual weakness, moments where the composed persona cracks in those series fights to highlight the danger of the situation. Sagiso goes through the motions, even an invasion where her sister's life was in direct peril didn't phase her. It's something all our characters could use.

It's just hard to get invested in a character who doesn't seem to care or is concerned over most things. That is all I want really.
 
Shen: King of Digimon

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Godjacob said:
The Sound was your passion project. It's something you wanted to do, I've done every AU role needed nobody else had a clear desire before hand to do really XD
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I split the mist 50/50 with Kyuu

And Kyuu took the Hyūga while retro took the Uchiha.

Other than that though, you do control a TON of Au roles. Just don’t say you control all of them XD
 
kyuukestu

kyuukestu

Godjacob said:
I don't desire for her to be afraid and break down crying every fight, I desire for her to show moments of weakness. Actual weakness, moments where the composed persona cracks in those series fights to highlight the danger of the situation. Sagiso goes through the motions, even an invasion where her sister's life was in direct peril didn't phase her. It's something all our characters could use.

It's just hard to get invested in a character who doesn't seem to care or is concerned over most things. That is all I want really.
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To force Sagisō to crack under pressure, that'll depend more on her opponent. Kidomaru was the closest she's been to death, but he wasn't the one with initiative in the situation. He only managed to catch Sagisō after Kin had already left him half dead, and hence it was Sagisō threatening to kill him rather than the other way around, that's why as opposed to fear she displayed anger in response to her injury.

The invasion is another story; the most perilous things Furijia was faced with were the flood, and Taiyo's yelling. The former of which being the only serious threat.

I get that you feel these were extremely dangerous situations, and I agree, but not to the extent to which you describe it. Sagisō's moments of weakness are often as she deals with the aftermath of a battle, not during the thick of it.

Perhaps upping the stakes through displays of weakness would be rather good for all our characters, but the stakes aren't easy to up. Every battle is essentially one where a Shinobi's life is on the line, danger to ones life isn't the most suitable stake given that it will be the only constant stake for every single confrontation. With the same stake being put forth for every confrontation, it's bound to get stale.

However, disregarding that, the last time we had this conversation is particularly the reason why I've dedicated my time to writing more in-depth posts that detail the thoughts and emotions Sagisō feels when she acts. Between the last time I addressed this, and this time, nothing even slightly worthy of mention has occurred event wise to influence Sagisō as external factors. Unless you consider Kiro moving into the Hyuga clan as worthy of mention with regards to influencing Sagisō's character development. However, internally, I'd like to think that between her time with Takato, the drunken song she'd sung, and her thoughts in the analogy of the field, I've added a lot to her 'indifference'.

You're certainly entitled to think otherwise, but I'd respect if you take into account what I've doing to remedy your concerns rather than pulling from the same handful of examples which I've addressed numerous times.
 
SageNeb

SageNeb

Previously 5DigitNeb
kyuukestu said:
To force Sagisō to crack under pressure, that'll depend more on her opponent. Kidomaru was the closest she's been to death, but he wasn't the one with initiative in the situation. He only managed to catch Sagisō after Kin had already left him half dead, and hence it was Sagisō threatening to kill him rather than the other way around, that's why as opposed to fear she displayed anger in response to her injury.

The invasion is another story; the most perilous things Furijia was faced with were the flood, and Taiyo's yelling. The former of which being the only serious threat.

I get that you feel these were extremely dangerous situations, and I agree, but not to the extent to which you describe it. Sagisō's moments of weakness are often as she deals with the aftermath of a battle, not during the thick of it.

Perhaps upping the stakes through displays of weakness would be rather good for all our characters, but the stakes aren't easy to up. Every battle is essentially one where a Shinobi's life is on the line, danger to ones life isn't the most suitable stake given that it will be the only constant stake for every single confrontation. With the same stake being put forth for every confrontation, it's bound to get stale.

However, disregarding that, the last time we had this conversation is particularly the reason why I've dedicated my time to writing more in-depth posts that detail the thoughts and emotions Sagisō feels when she acts. Between the last time I addressed this, and this time, nothing even slightly worthy of mention has occurred event wise to influence Sagisō as external factors. Unless you consider Kiro moving into the Hyuga clan as worthy of mention with regards to influencing Sagisō's character development. However, internally, I'd like to think that between her time with Takato, the drunken song she'd sung, and her thoughts in the analogy of the field, I've added a lot to her 'indifference'.

You're certainly entitled to think otherwise, but I'd respect if you take into account what I've doing to remedy your concerns rather than pulling from the same handful of examples which I've addressed numerous times.
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I write less on an RP post stop embarrassing me Kyuu
 
kyuukestu

kyuukestu

Nebulix said:
@kyuukestu AU Hyuga Incident details???
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Essentially the same as in canon, as it turns out Hinagiku happens to be a part of a set of 3 sisters (One is Sagisō's mother, and the other was supposed to be Zino's mother, however, I'm unsure if that still stands, nevertheless, I choose to keep her.), so the third sister i.e. Zino's would be mother, would've been to one to have been sacrificed, and the kidnapped child would've been either Furījia or Zino, I'd lean towards Furījia just to strike up more similarities with canon.

Evens proceed as usual, except the Hyūga have kept silent 'for the sake of the village' as a war is obviously detrimental to any nation. However, despite not having raised a fuss about it, they're very dissatisfied with how the village handled the situation but try to keep their resultant estrangement suppressed.

Though, the Hyūga have rearranged their priorities; their own clan members exceeds the village in importance should the need to chose between the two arise.
 
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