Private/Closed Naruto AU RP: discussion

[DarkHydraT]

Hmmmm you seem to think you’ll be at an advantage over him. A bold claim

Watch Taiyo's puppet arms get blasted to bits

 

[sSoul]

Kai: *flips table* OUR KAGE WILL DIE TONIGHT!

Hama:...you know she’s a mist-

Kai: TONIGHT!!!!!!!

Tsuki: But that would make you a criminal.
Seiun: That's sad, especially since Mr. Yuki could kill me. #TsukiforMizukage2018

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Tsuki: But that would make you a criminal.
Seiun: That's sad, especially since Mr. Yuki could kill me. #TsukiforMizukage2018

Kai: not if your king of the mist. #KaiforKing2018

 

[kyuukestu]

Alrighty, finally done writing ;-;

Almost 3000 words, but I'm finally done. Now I just need @Godjacob to set things into motion~

I only found like 3 songs though ~w~

 

[Godjacob]

Alrighty, finally done writing ;-;

Almost 3000 words, but I'm finally done. Now I just need @Godjacob to set things into motion~

I only found like 3 songs though ~w~

Oh, I'll get a post up ASAP. Sorry. Currently eating dinner.

 

[kyuukestu]

Oh, I'll get a post up ASAP. Sorry. Currently eating dinner.

Np, you inadvertently gave me the idea for this anyways so I don't mind waiting a bit.

 

[Godjacob]

Alright, I hope that set up was good for you.

 

[sSoul]

I don't think I should post, since there isn't much left for me to do at the moment :/.

 

[kyuukestu]

I don't think I should post, since there isn't much left for me to do at the moment :/.

well, you can shift over to hear Furījia's life story I guess.

Though, you can easily saw he overheard.

 

[kyuukestu]

Unravel might show up again in Hinagiku's backstory, it'll be a different singer though, different translation of lyrics, more fitting to the situation. needless to say though, that song will become more important.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Unravel might show up again in Hinagiku's backstory, it'll be a different singer though, different translation of lyrics, more fitting to the situation. needless to say though, that song will become more important.

I have to say, I really enjoyed your submission today. That and your song choices were funnily enough music I know and enjoy myself time to time, so it made it all better good going

 

[kyuukestu]

I have to say, I really enjoyed your submission today. That and your song choices were funnily enough music I know and enjoy myself time to time, so it made it all better good going

Ahaha, you'll make me blush

I did try my best for that one though, and it's really supposed to go to show the type of mindset my characters adopt. Rather than uncaring, I prefer to see it more as a strict, weight of the world, kinda thing that they're dealing with and that influences their decisions.

Also, it'd be tragic to not put a downside to belonging to an influential clan.

At almost 3,000 words, and haven taken me about 3 hours to write, it's probably the longest thing I've ever typed and I'm pretty proud of it.

 

[Godjacob]

That post was beautiful, I don't know what else to say. Much less how to have Sakura respond to all of that.

Excellent work.

 

[sSoul]

That post was beautiful, I don't know what else to say. Much less how to have Sakura respond to all of that.

Excellent work.

Same tbh, and how does Taiyo even hear this, is this a mental flashback, or is Furījia telling Sakura this as the flashback is happening?

 

[kyuukestu]

Same tbh, and how does Taiyo even hear this, is this a mental flashback, or is Furījia telling Sakura this as the flashback is happening?

She's recounting the events, so she's telling it to Sakura, however, I wrote out the scene of the Flashback.

You guys would be able to hear everything apart from Hinagiku's musings right after Furījia fainted (since she obviously wouldn't know of that), and the section within the first spoiler, which isn't really apart of the scene itself but instead was meant to add to the atmosphere I was trying to build.

 

[sSoul]

She's recounting the events, so she's telling it to Sakura, however, I wrote out the scene of the Flashback.

You guys would be able to hear everything apart from Hinagiku's musings right after Furījia fainted (since she obviously wouldn't know of that), and the section within the first spoiler, which isn't really apart of the scene itself but instead was meant to add to the atmosphere I was trying to build.

Right, now can anyone give me the TL;DR version of Furījia's life story, cause all I remember is that she learned that life sucks and the words of a clan head have power.

 

[kyuukestu]

Right, now can anyone give me the TL;DR version of Furījia's life story, cause all I remember is that she learned that life sucks and the words of a clan head have power.

Well,

TL;DR

Hinagiku brought her to a village and then had the Hyūga Clan members slaughter everyone within the village. It was to show off the authority behind the words of a Clan Leader and by extent others in positions of power.

While Furījia is traumatized by watching an entire village slaughtered in front of her -in great detail thanks to the Byakugan- Hinagiku tells her they're a Bandit village, and that if she wants to be clan leader, she'll need to understand that this event, and things like this event, will often be the consequences of her decisions.

Furījia then faints and spends the next few weeks holed up in her room contemplating what it means to become a Clan Leader, and what the role even represents.

She develops a severe case of anxiety, uncertainty, and low-self-esteem, that cripples her ability to perform under pressure.

 

[kyuukestu]

Ah, I should note, that because her anxiety stems from her self-doubt regarding ever being able to fill the shoes of her Mother, that the closer the task becomes to doing just that, the more intense her reaction, which will escalate from mere timidness to full-blown panic attacks.

She's far more capable when taken off the spotlight though so that's basically only during training/practice, and when she's merely playing an assisting role to someone she trusts greatly i.e. Sagisō, Hinagiku, and to a lesser extent Sakura and Kenji.

 

[Godjacob]

inagiku brought her to a village and then had the Hyūga Clan members slaughter everyone within the village. It was to show off the authority behind the words of a Clan Leader and by extent others in positions of power.

While Furījia is traumatized by watching an entire village slaughtered in front of her -in great detail thanks to the Byakugan- Hinagiku tells her they're a Bandit village, and that if she wants to be clan leader, she'll need to understand that this event, and things like this event, will often be the consequences of her decisions.

Which, upon reflection, seems like an under reaction from Konoha XD

Jiraiya: An entire village slaughtered, and you just....let it happen Minato?
Minato: Um, well uh...I-I can explain...

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Which, upon reflection, seems like an under reaction from Konoha XD

Jiraiya: An entire village slaughtered, and you just....let it happen Minato?
Minato: Um, well uh...I-I can explain...

Sounds like something Danzo would have a stake in doing

 

[kyuukestu]

Which, upon reflection, seems like an under reaction from Konoha XD

Jiraiya: An entire village slaughtered, and you just....let it happen Minato?
Minato: Um, well uh...I-I can explain...

Sounds like something Danzo would have a stake in doing

Tsk tsk, I see you two didn't read everything.

They're a bandit village who were plaguing the surroundings, and the Hyūga clan took the mission to exterminate them. The only person who didn't know they were a bandit village was Furījia, but Hinagiku told her afterward.

Well,

TL;DR

Hinagiku brought her to a village and then had the Hyūga Clan members slaughter everyone within the village. It was to show off the authority behind the words of a Clan Leader and by extent others in positions of power.

While Furījia is traumatized by watching an entire village slaughtered in front of her -in great detail thanks to the Byakugan- Hinagiku tells her they're a Bandit village, and that if she wants to be clan leader, she'll need to understand that this event, and things like this event, will often be the consequences of her decisions.

Furījia then faints and spends the next few weeks holed up in her room contemplating what it means to become a Clan Leader, and what the role even represents.

She develops a severe case of anxiety, uncertainty, and low-self-esteem, that cripples her ability to perform under pressure.

 

[Godjacob]

Tsk tsk, I see you two didn't read everything.

They're a bandit village who were plaguing the surroundings, and the Hyūga clan took the mission to exterminate them. The only person who didn't know they were a bandit village was Furījia, but Hinagiku told her afterward.

I understood that.

I just feel like that village genocide is not a mission Konoha would typically do. Specially if the threat is just bandits. Minato and Hiruzen were not known for the type to resort to such extreme situations. Hiruzen was reluctant even when the Uchiha plotted a coup against the village.

 

[kyuukestu]

I understood that.

I just feel like that village genocide is not a mission Konoha would typically do. Specially if the threat is just bandits. Minato and Hiruzen were not known for the type to resort to such extreme situations. Hiruzen was reluctant even when the Uchiha plotted a coup against the village.

Minato slaughtered over a thousand Iwa shinobi in one battle :T

And Hiruzen allowed Danzo to create Root to, and lemme quote;

In the anime, Hiruzen permitted Danzō to create Root - a more ruthless subdivision of the Anbu under Danzō's exclusive control - shortly after he became Hokage in order to balance the shortcomings of his empathetic rule. For years he had ignored Root's questionable foreign ops, its abduction of children, and the actions it took against Konoha personnel, Hiruzen included.

As a Kage who was very aware that he was a soft ruler, he allowed for the implementation of a branch designed to do the exact opposite.

And they're not 'just bandits', a bandit village which was enough of a tumor to get the attention of the Feudal Lord himself has been down to some serious terrorizing of the population. The word village should be used liberally as well, they'd more be considered a hamlet, a classification of around 100 members, all guilty of varying degrees of crime.

I also don't think that comparing them to the Uchiha makes sense, the Uchiha were part of the village after all.

TL;DR Konoha Kage's are softies, but they're intelligent softies and probably wouldn't spare a village of bandits responsible for causing enough damage to alert the Feudal Lord.

 

[sSoul]

I breifly thought about having Taiyo share abour his early life, but I may not cause it doesnt pertain to the topic of disscussion.

 

[Godjacob]

Minato slaughtered over a thousand Iwa shinobi in one battle :T

That was a war. Kinda a different situation than this. He allowed Killer Bee & Ay to live when he could have easily killed their entire squad, so he is not heartless.

As a Kage who was very aware that he was a soft ruler, he allowed for the implementation of a branch designed to do the exact opposite.

And they're not 'just bandits', a bandit village which was enough of a tumor to get the attention of the Feudal Lord himself has been down to some serious terrorizing of the population. The word village should be used liberally as well, they'd more be considered a hamlet, a classification of around 100 members, all guilty of varying degrees of crime.

I also don't think that comparing them to the Uchiha makes sense, the Uchiha were part of the village after all.

.....this is new information. Feels incredibly out of character for Hiruzen to allow something like Root to exist. But I can't refute this, even if I feel Minato would have handled the situation differently personally.

 

[kyuukestu]

That was a war. Kinda a different situation than this. He allowed Killer Bee & Ay to live when he could have easily killed their entire squad, so he is not heartless.



.....this is new information. Feels incredibly out of character for Hiruzen to allow something like Root to exist. But I can't refute this, even if I feel Minato would have handled the situation differently personally.

At the same time, I doubt Bandits who were wildly killing villagers would fall under his good graces.

Minato isn't merciless, but likewise, I don't think he'd be that merciful. I can give a more detailed description of the atrocities committed by the bandits if you want, make them less redeemable.

I'd have to insist that taking the approach of sparing all our enemies will swiftly drive us into problems.

 

[Godjacob]

At the same time, I doubt Bandits who were wildly killing villagers would fall under his good graces.

Minato isn't merciless, but likewise, I don't think he'd be that merciful. I can give a more detailed description of the atrocities committed by the bandits if you want, make them less redeemable.

I'd have to insist that taking the approach of sparing all our enemies will swiftly drive us into problems.

Just think playing this as a "right of passage" for Furijia to have to accept as one day clan head can be a bit dark & misleading given genocide should not be that common among Konoha. And in my head there are always innocents among even the most vile clans that likely got caught in the crossfire.

 

[SageNeb]

That moment you realize none of your OC’s have backstories

 

[kyuukestu]

Just think playing this as a "right of passage" for Furijia to have to accept as one day clan head can be a bit dark & misleading given genocide should not be that common among Konoha. And in my head there are always innocents among even the most vile clans that likely got caught in the crossfire.

A bandit village, in this case, is referring to a village created by Bandits out of their own members. Basically, once their numbers grew beyond the limits of a mere stronghold, they created a village. None of them are innocent. There are no children in the village, and everyone within it should be assumed to be a combat capable Bandit.

The setting of the world is dark, don't let it's being for children fool you into thinking otherwise. If you asked me you're definitely being too soft. This is a world where 12-year-olds are military combatants after all.

With regards to Furījia, the Hyūga clan, and all the noble clans for that matter, are military families. Given the state of the world -which I must stress is one in which Children are frequently armed and sent out to perform as members of the Military, and they're trained from a young age how to handle weapons and lethal force, and ALL that is perfectly normal- it's only natural they're expected to lead the troops should fighting break out.

The reality is she'll be expected to order the deaths of hundreds if not more because that's precisely what a military general does, and the weight of that needs to be driven home. This is usually the result of each and every time a military leader gives the order to engage -people die in droves.

I wanted to address exactly that topic, and since the topic itself was dark, the scenario followed suit.

 

[SageNeb]

Just realized the uchiha aren’t even the darkest clan anymore

 

[Godjacob]

A bandit village, in this case, is referring to a village created by Bandits out of their own members. Basically, once their numbers grew beyond the limits of a mere stronghold, they created a village. None of them are innocent. There are no children in the village, and everyone within it should be assumed to be a combat capable Bandit.

The setting of the world is dark, don't let it's being for children fool you into thinking otherwise. If you asked me you're definitely being too soft. This is a world where 12-year-olds are military combatants after all.

With regards to Furījia, the Hyūga clan, and all the noble clans for that matter, are military families. Given the state of the world -which I must stress is one in which Children are frequently armed and sent out to perform as members of the Military, and they're trained from a young age how to handle weapons and lethal force, and ALL that is perfectly normal- it's only natural they're expected to lead the troops should fighting break out.

The reality is she'll be expected to order the deaths of hundreds if not more because that's precisely what a military general does, and the weight of that needs to be driven home. This is usually the result of each and every time a military leader gives the order to engage -people die in droves.

I wanted to address exactly that topic, and since the topic itself was dark, the scenario followed suit.

If I am too soft, I feel you are being too dark with the concept.

Most Genin are typically asked to do D-Rank missions. Walking dogs, finding missing cats etc. Things like B-Missions and such are not common of Genin or "children" in this case and are rare exceptions.

Just feels too much going in the opposite direction for what the series is known for. Death is expected, committing genocide should not be seen as common in any context, especially in an era that (Formally) had been free of war for years.

 

[SageNeb]

If I am too soft, I feel you are being too dark with the concept.

Most Genin are typically asked to do D-Rank missions. Walking dogs, finding missing cats etc. Things like B-Missions and such are not common of Genin or "children" in this case and are rare exceptions.

Just feels too much going in the opposite direction for what the series is known for. Death is expected, committing genocide should not be seen as common in any context, especially in an era that (Formally) had been free of war for years.

The leaf: ok so you left Academy now in a couple of years you might have to fight someon-
Hyuga: SHOW THEM GENOCIDE

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Just realized the uchiha aren’t even the darkest clan anymore

That belongs to the Hü for now.

Yuki and hyuga are duking it out for second place lol

 

[SageNeb]

That belongs to the Hü for now.

Yuki and hyuga are duking it out for second place lol

True but they’re extinct. Like the uzumaki being a big helper to konoha, not a thing anymore

 

[kyuukestu]

If I am too soft, I feel you are being too dark with the concept.

Most Genin are typically asked to do D-Rank missions. Walking dogs, finding missing cats etc. Things like B-Missions and such are not common of Genin or "children" in this case and are rare exceptions.

Just feels too much going in the opposite direction for what the series is known for. Death is expected, committing genocide should not be seen as common in any context, especially in an era that (Formally) had been free of war for years.

Rather than follow the logic of the series, I've been making things more gritty and realistic.

Their task was Bandit Extermination, not committing genocide. The difference in words used makes a whole world of difference.

'War-free' should be spoken liberally. They haven't had any massive ninja wards spanning the whole Continent, but conflict is a plenty. Suna and Iwa have not stopped fighting each other in the past 20 years or even more. It's gotten so bad to the point that resentment between the nations is deeprooted, they don't even know what they're fighting for anymore. Yasu x Tomiko is literally Romeo x Juliet, they're starcrossed lovers who's nations share a bone-deep hatred for each other.

Myself, and perhaps Shen as well, are your dark reminders that this is a world at war. The Land of Fire has an entire underground system of bounty hunting which encourages shinobi to go out and collect the heads of others for cash.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

True but they’re extinct. Like the uzumaki being a big helper to konoha, not a thing anymore

Well one particular Uzumaki carries all of Kohona a tier higher lol.

And there may be more to the Hü that you have yet discovered

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Myself, and perhaps Shen as well, are your dark reminders that this is a world at war. The Land of Fire has an entire underground system of bounty hunting which encourages shinobi to go out and collect the heads of others for cash.

Well said

 

[kyuukestu]

The leaf: ok so you left Academy now in a couple of years you might have to fight someon-
Hyuga: SHOW THEM GENOCIDE

The academy teachers children no older than 10, to throw lethal weapons at targets clearly intended to replicate humans. It also teaches them how to wield Fire, Lighting, Water, Earth, and Wind with lethal force.

 

[Godjacob]

Rather than follow the logic of the series, I've been making things more gritty and realistic.

Their task was Bandit Extermination, not committing genocide. The difference in words used makes a whole world of difference.

'War-free' should be spoken liberally. They haven't had any massive ninja wards spanning the whole Continent, but conflict is a plenty. Suna and Iwa have not stopped fighting each other in the past 20 years or even more. It's gotten so bad to the point that resentment between the nations is deeprooted, they don't even know what they're fighting for anymore. Yasu x Tomiko is literally Romeo x Juliet, they're starcrossed lovers who's nations share a bone-deep hatred for each other.

Myself, and perhaps Shen as well, are your dark reminders that this is a world at war. The Land of Fire has an entire underground system of bounty hunting which encourages shinobi to go out and collect the heads of others for cash.

Just saying, making everything grim dark doesn't make the actual tragic events (Amegakure's near destruction to name one example) have the kind of punch that they should have. Just another part of the ninja world, and the people there should not be such melodramatic wussies over it.

There needs to be contrast, some light in the dark so that those events and moments have more weight behind them. If something like near mass genocide or casual slaughter of hundreds of people is so common it can be given tutorial lessons by a prominent clan head it just paints a pure black picture with no other colors which makes the work itself one-dimensional.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

The academy teachers children no older than 10, to throw lethal weapons at targets clearly intended to replicate humans. It also teaches them how to wield Fire, Lighting, Water, Earth, and Wind with lethal force.

Let’s jot get started on how the mist do graduations....

Just saying, making everything grim dark doesn't make the actual tragic events (Amegakure's near destruction to name one example) have the kind of punch that they should have. Just another part of the ninja world, and the people there should not be such melodramatic wussies over it.

There needs to be contrast, some light in the dark so that those events and moments have more weight behind them. If something like near mass genocide or casual slaughter of hundreds of people is so common it can be given tutorial lessons by a prominent clan head it just paints a pure black picture with no other colors which makes the work itself one-dimensional.

There is color. For example, tomiko’s street family, Kou’s adoption by Palentra, Jin and Roanna’s Meeting and growing up, etc