Private/Closed Naruto AU RP: discussion

[kyuukestu]

Conjectures;

Yin-Release
Space-Time Ninjutsu
The Doll is the crux

@Mystic Zander

Bleh, there was a repeating sound before the tent flew up so auditory genjutsu wouldn't really be off the plate. Throw out some less-chakra consuming tests.

 

[Godjacob]

Geez all this activity all of the sudden at 8:20, homework hour XD

 

[Mystic Zander]

*Pretends I plan to play along, still plans to use a genjutsu release.*

Okay, I get the whole 'mysterious' thing. I'm just saying if its not genjutsu then its something very powerful with zero explanation as of right now. Which was basically your problem with my last technique, that's why I'm being nit-picky.
(Not to mention your sensory nin having a technique almost identical to Krakens Roots, sensory specialist or not, still a bit cheap imo.)

A Salty Zander is a questioning Zander.

Also, @kyuukestu, interesting thing about Crystal style. You can transform any and all solid/semi-solid matter into Crystals. This means water vapor in the air and others jutsus as well. Almost no technique is very chakra consuming the first few uses.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Conjectures;

Yin-Release
Space-Time Ninjutsu
The Doll is the crux

@Mystic Zander

Bleh, there was a repeating sound before the tent flew up so auditory genjutsu wouldn't really be off the plate. Throw out some less-chakra consuming tests.

That was a rather chakra consuming test, wasn’t it? Either way, the fight with Absurd will be a puzzle as well as a fight. The first of it’s kind in this Rp.

*Pretends I plan to play along, still plans to use a genjutsu release.*

Okay, I get the whole 'mysterious' thing. I'm just saying if its not genjutsu then its something very powerful with zero explanation as of right now. Which was basically your problem with my last technique, that's why I'm being nit-picky.
(Not to mention your sensory nin having a technique almost identical to Krakens Roots, sensory specialist or not, still a bit cheap imo.)

A Salty Zander is a questioning Zander.

In all fairness, you said your technique would render all sensory types obsolete while your skyrocket ahead of them in functionality :T

Also, what sensory type do you speak of?

As far as absurd goes, trust me it’s been used within naruto itself, canon stuff, not made up stuff I’m talking about. So it’s legal.

 

[Godjacob]

As far as absurd goes, trust me it’s been used within naruto itself, canon stuff, not made up stuff I’m talking about. So it’s legal.

I mean I won't say anything about Absurd (Is it Absurd or Obsurd?) because I've whined about too many techniques and been Mr. Killjoy more times then I can count.

Still, if that is all that is needed for a pass a lot of questionable techniques would be used & abused. Granted some people here would want everything no matter how OP anyway but that's beside the point.

 

[Mystic Zander]

You really gonna keep jumping on that off-handed comment at every turn? Ive already explained my bias. Do you think being a sensory nin alone will get your far? Sasuke's sharigan proved that just because your senses are better, doesn't mean you can prevent the inevitable beatdown that's coming.
I admit that obsolete comment was a bit targeted at the time, but I think we've gone a bit past that by now.

And I was referring to your web-tracking technique. It works via vibrations and traces of chakra, and could theoretically keep growing forever (at a much slower rate I would assume) making it virtually identical to krakens roots in functionality. But I'm guessing that's chill because it was a sensory ninja who performed the technique.
That's what I mean.

Certain things, little inconsistencies we just gotta question, ya know? Not talking you down or even trying to, just a bit confused with your thought process.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

I mean I won't say anything about Absurd (Is it Absurd or Obsurd?) because I've whined about too many techniques and been Mr. Killjoy more times then I can count.

Still, if that is all that is needed for a pass a lot of questionable techniques would be used & abused. Granted some people here would want everything no matter how OP anyway but that's beside the point.

Absurd is his first name, Obsurd is his last name, so either would work

Also, normally I don’t pull this, but I DID make the Rp after all, and I never want to see it die, but trust me, if you saw the inner workings of Absurd, I fear you would actually find him quite underwhelming.

It’s canon, and used more that 20 times throughout the series as far as techniques go

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

And I was referring to your web-tracking technique. It works via vibrations and traces of chakra, and could theoretically keep growing forever (at a much slower rate I would assume) making it virtually identical to krakens roots in functionality. But I'm guessing that's chill because it was a sensory ninja who performed the technique.
That's what I mean.

Certain things, little inconsistencies we just gotta question, ya know? Not talking you down or even trying to, just a bit confused with your thought process.

Ah I suppose this needs explaining.


Kidomaru not only is a pseudo jounin Tier, but his technique does already exist in canon. However I didn’t know to THAT extreme, I just treat it as being directly tripped by physical contact, which makes it a long distance trip wire without a trap, which actually makes it quite pitiful of a detection if you really think about it, compared to the byakugan.

Not to mention the web can’t move or grow once layed down, and it only covered under 1 KM of space, meanwhile your technique grows and grows and grows over the capacity of the whole island and then some, by what I’ve been told

 

[Mystic Zander]

Absurd Obsurd huh?....
*Shotgun cocking*
Yup, he's gotta go.
XD

No but for real, this type of technique is Katsuo's living nightmare tbh. Not intimidating, but a scenario he couldn't stand being in.

Edit: A tripwire? You used residual touch to stream someones chakra the end of a KM thread to taste test. And yeah, with time the technique would encase the whole island, again, I get the point about its level.

 

[SageNeb]

Absurd Obsurd huh?....
*Shotgun cocking*
Yup, he's gotta go.
XD

No but for real, this type of technique is Katsuo's living nightmare tbh. Not intimidating, but a scenario he couldn't stand being in.

This is why I would never wanna fight shen xD

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Absurd Obsurd huh?....
*Shotgun cocking*
Yup, he's gotta go.
XD

Hahaha that gave me a laugh XD

No but for real, this type of technique is Katsuo's living nightmare tbh. Not intimidating, but a scenario he couldn't stand being in.

Hmmm! Not afraid of Sagiso, nor the wind cannons of Zaku, but Absurd! Huh, who would have thunk it. We’ll see if he can wake from this nightmare

 

[Godjacob]

This is why I would never wanna fight shen xD

Honestly I think this is fun personally. I like the set up and it is quite unique for a fight. Plus I don't have a stress fracture like I would be if I were fighting Zander or kyuu. Then again I also fight Shen in the Kakashi vs. Hama battle so....we'll see there XD

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Honestly I think this is fun personally. I like the set up and it is quite unique for a fight. Plus I don't have a stress fracture like I would be if I were fighting Zander or kyuu.

Aw thanks! I put a month and a half’s worth of thought into this wildcard of a trap, so it’s nice for it to be appreciated ^^

Then again I also fight Shen in the Kakashi vs. Hama battle so....we'll see there XD

Welp....at least you have friends...? Maybe? and Kakashi, he’s pretty big

 

[SageNeb]

I think Kai might win Kai v kiro... and I feel you’re underestimating shen

 

[Godjacob]

Welp....at least you have friends...? Maybe? and Kakashi, he’s pretty big

Well it's more me vs. you kinda thing. Not so much Kakashi vs. Hama. Heck even characters I control who are supposed to be strong and even with kyuu saying Azumi did well against Baiyan I constantly doubt myself and feel I underperform them. Kakashi is a fav of mine and I want to do him justice but yeah I don't have the best confidence in a strategic battle.

 

[Godjacob]

I think Kai might win Kai v kiro... and I feel you’re underestimating shen

I mean this fight kinda depends on whether Retro actually has Kiro try for once and has Kiro fight with all he has which he has never done in the RP.

 

[SageNeb]

Idk he’d have to do a clutch with curse mark or something

 

[Mystic Zander]

Why does everyone treat fighting me like the black plague!?
XD

I can be fun in a fight! I just like a hard challenge that's all!

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

I mean this fight kinda depends on whether Retro actually has Kiro try for once and has Kiro fight with all he has which he has never done in the RP.

Kiro May win against Kai due to the water and lightning thing...ouch

That and mental warfare against Kai. Thats if they fought though. I doubt Kiro wants to burn his final bridge

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Why does everyone treat fighting me like the black plague!?
XD

I can fun in a fight! I just like a hard challenge that's all!

Heh! Your getting one now at least XD

If it helps, I don’t avoid anyone in a fight, I welcome all. I fought every RPer in this RP anyway lol

 

[Godjacob]

Why does everyone treat fighting me like the black plague!?
XD

I can fun in a fight! I just like a hard challenge that's all!

Sorry, I don't mean to say I never want to fight you. Quite the opposite, I just have this constant worry that me or my characters are not good enough to compete with someone like Katsuo is all. It's my issue, not anything you are guilty of.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Sorry, I don't mean to say I never want to fight you. Quite the opposite, I just have this constant worry that me or my characters are not good enough to compete with someone like Katsuo is all. It's my issue, not anything you are guilty of.

Just look back at Azumi vs reaver if you need reassurance of your capabilities. She’s a beast. If you could do that to Azumi, I have the upmost confidence you could do something with kakashi’s diverse move pool

 

[kyuukestu]

What godjacob is saying is that pure strategy tops tiering, no matter how much of a beast a character might be it'd be kinda hard to think through a method to say, survive a Nuke like Baiyan's Heaven-Earth Lotus, or even creating said Nuke.

Not really a matter of characters, but RPers and our little strat quirks.

 

[Mystic Zander]

Katsuo and Azumiiiiiiiii.

Katsuo: He's been very pushy about this topic.

Jacob mah boy, I've said it a thousand times, your just as good as anyone else on here.
Just remember, no matter how far you believe someone has thought ahead of you, they can only see as far as your next post will allow them.

Also, if you were a bad rper, I wouldn't wanna fight you, I like a challenge.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

What godjacob is saying is that pure strategy tops tiering, no matter how much of a beast a character might be it'd be kinda hard to think through a method to say, survive a Nuke like Baiyan's Heaven-Earth Lotus, or even creating said Nuke.

Not really a matter of characters, but RPers and our little strat quirks.

This does factor in extensively. Except someone like Kakashi would have access to far stronger moves and would be then capable of so much more

As far as outside jounin and above, I found the weakness to strategy Is sheer instinct. As Kiro was beaten by Mori in a mere two or three posts, and we know how good retro is with strategy.

Matchups also play a roll as well. A heavy one in some cases (looking at you Yasu and Zaku)

 

[SageNeb]

Mori in a mere two or three posts, and we know how good retro is with strategy.

Actually we don’t. He said he just “goes with the flow”

 

[kyuukestu]

Match-ups are atrocious indeed.

Baiyan happens to be a pretty good match against Reaver, both defensively and offensively. She's probably one of the few characters I have who wouldn't be concerned about not being able to get through his armor.

The same applies to Azumi, who's liquid shadow will always be effective against the Reaver suits unless Shen eliminated the need for joints and hence areas the liquid shadow will enter.

Baiyan actually also happens to be a pretty good counter to Azumi since her brand of darkness renders shadow possession moot. I happened to do some research and Shadow possession doesn't work in complete darkness.

 

[Godjacob]

This does factor in extensively. Except someone like Kakashi would have access to far stronger moves and would be then capable of so much more

Again, the issue for me is whether I can take advantage of Kakashi's diverse movepool and use it in ways that are not super basic & easy to counter.

Katsuo and Azumiiiiiiiii.

Katsuo: He's been very pushy about this topic.

Jacob mah boy, I've said it a thousand times, your just as good as anyone else on here.
Just remember, no matter how far you believe someone has thought ahead of you, they can only see as far as your next post will allow them.

Also, if you were a bad rper, I wouldn't wanna fight you, I like a challenge.

I appreciate the sentiment.

Though if I were as good at this as you, or Shen or kyuu then Kenji, Tomiko, Madoka & Sakura (Among others) would have looked a little more credible to this point than they even. Even if only minorly. 1 character does not make up my whole spectrum (And even that character got lucky breaks. The Kiro fight)

 

[Mystic Zander]

Actually we don’t. He said he just “goes with the flow”

Technically what everyone does, even if there 'strategizing' at the same time.

Edit: @Godjacob On the contrary, I really dig Tomiko and Madoka a lot as well. Azumi will be the spotlight if you continue making her the spotlight. (But are you surprised? Liquid Shadows! I think your underselling your fusion of Shadow Possession and Water Style)

 

[Godjacob]

Baiyan actually also happens to be a pretty good counter to Azumi since her brand of darkness renders shadow possession moot. I happened to do some research and Shadow possession doesn't work in complete darkness.

Funny enough, my Charms Fairy Tail story might touch on this "Darkness vs. Shadows" thing in a literal sense. But yeah, not a good sign for the team leader XD

 

[Retro Master]

Katsuo and Azumiiiiiiiii.

Yeah... sounds like a ship

As far as outside jounin and above, I found the weakness to strategy Is sheer instinct. As Kiro was beaten by Mori in a mere two or three posts, and we know how good retro is with strategy.

I could’ve had Kiro avoid the attack or at the very least keep him conscious... I actually don’t remember why I chose to knock Kiro out

 

[SageNeb]

Hmmm
*thinks back to retro thinking my trolls were serious and kiro was op in others POV *

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Yeah... s

Zaku: B-but what about my harem?!

I could’ve had Kiro avoid the attack or at the very least keep him conscious... I actually don’t remember why I chose to knock Kiro out

Hmmm maybe to lead to that fateful puppy dog eyes technique on Kai?

 

[kyuukestu]

Ah, I'd like to point out that all our strategy types happen to also be sheer instinct types. probably cause we're all combat nerds

 

[SageNeb]

Ah, I'd like to point out that all our strategy types happen to also be sheer instinct types. probably cause we're all combat nerds

C-combat? Y-you mean choosing the right moves in pokemon battles? (Me when I first joined the RP... and also me now xD)

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Ah, I'd like to point out that all our strategy types happen to also be sheer instinct types. probably cause we're all combat nerds

Oh no I’m not an instinct type. Not primarily anyway. I actually think of skills and techniques before hand and try to got down ways to ensure a foe

Take Absurd for example. I’ve had a whole month and a half to think of ways to make moves and tricks so unpredictable for his typing as well as functionality. So that ain’t instinct XD

 

[Retro Master]

Hmmm maybe to lead to that fateful puppy dog eyes technique on Kai?

I think my mindset was something like this. Stall for Kai to get there and it made sense narratively to have Kiro get hit by that. Even though it was a dirty move by Mori, I had to respect it.

 

[Mystic Zander]

Yeah... sounds like a sship

I mean, everyone was trying to guess SagisoX?, so why not stir the pot a bit with another oc? XD jk

 

[kyuukestu]

Oh no I’m not an instinct type. Not primarily anyway. I actually think of skills and techniques before hand and try to got down ways to ensure a foe

Take Absurd for example. I’ve had a whole month and a half to think of ways to make moves and tricks so unpredictable for his typing as well as functionality. So that ain’t instinct XD

Ah, I'm an instinct type for the most part, whatever pops into my head gets thrown to the back of my mind for later development.

Like, I thought up a good counter to Kidomaru with Sagisō, and then it totally slipped my mind.

Unsurprisingly, I'm downright terrible at actual strategy games like Chess, Checkers, and Othello...well, I lose every time I play with my friends...

I'm pretty good at cards though.

 

[Godjacob]

Ah, I'd like to point out that all our strategy types happen to also be sheer instinct types. probably cause we're all combat nerds

And my combat instinct (Which I pre-plan nothing for fights XD) being lackluster is the constant hurdle for me. I just go with what I feel is a good move (Well, after I stopped the whole "allow some of the attack to get through) phase. Just other people here have even better counters XD