Private/Closed Naruto AU RP: discussion

[sSoul]

She’s pure mist blood and a Yuki to boot. If he noticed, he will try

Friendship: 100

 

[SageNeb]

Lol the Genjutsu made tsuki go away from the battle, the river is right next to it.

 

[sSoul]

Lol the Genjutsu made tsuki go away from the battle, the river is right next to it.

Is the river still within freezing range, cause if not, than edit time.

 

[Retro Master]

Well, Kiro has kinda made zero attempt to try and get on even passable speaking terms with Tayuya. I think it would be an interesting dynamic, but it would be out of character for Tayuya to just help him right away unless given a very good reason. So Kiro has to make an effort to get her to share that info.

I can’t really think of a good reason. Their interactions during the timeskip were probably just them constantly arguing. How did they even live under the same roof for three months?! Lmao

Would it be fine if I brought up Kiro asking for advice only for Tayuya to call him a bitch and too fuck off?

Being called a bitch would set him on the right track though. Instead of worrying about the pain and other side effects, Kiro should actually stop being a bitch and just let the curse mark do it’s thing. Not having the will to use it hinders the effect of the mark in the first place. It’ll actually go dormant if he doesn’t use it.

 

[SageNeb]

Is the river still within freezing range, cause if not, than edit time.

Probably not

 

[sSoul]

Probably not

I can't really edit until I get a definitive answer, can I see the map again?

 

[kyuukestu]

Oh, sorry

I went off the logic of "paper bombs never kill anyone in Naruto besides suicide bombers" so I didn't consider this to be that big an issue. I didn't want our battle to be annoying in that respect, I just did what I felt was a crafty move Sakura would have done. I can edit.

A casual joke, you're being too serious *Pinches cheeks*

Quite a few holes with this plan, one, bold of you to assume that Kai will care enough to try an rescue the weak link of the team, two, bold of you to assume a Yuki won't just freeze the river, oh wait, I just did. Btw just think of

*cracks fingers*

Alright so fire typically burns at a temperature of 1,100 F, and if you convert that to Celcius via the equation

(X -32) * 5/9 where X is your temperature in Fahrenheit, you get 593.33, or roughly 600 C.

1 C of temperature converts to about 1899 J of energy. So in total, we have 1,139,400 J of energy.

Now taking the Current temperature of the water as roughly 0 since it's frozen, we'll perform a string of calculations to see the exact amount of energy required to transform frozen Ice to steam.

You start with water at 0 C and plug it into the equation to find the energy required to overcome its latent heat of fusion, this is rather difficult since we don't have a solid measure for the mass of water frozen, however, we can throw out a random number like 1 metric ton or about 1,000 kg.

So now that we have a standard mass to work with we can use this equation here

E = L(hf) * M

where;
E = Energy
M = mass (1,000 kg)
L(hf) = Latent heat of fusion (3.33 x 10^5 jKg)

therefore

1000 * 3.33 x 10^5 = 333,000,000 J

Next, we'll calculate the amount of heat needed to transform said about of water now at 0 C to 100 C using the specific heat capacity of water which is around 4200 Joules per Kilogram per Kelvin/Celcius

Using the equation

E = M x C x (T1 - T2)

Where;

E = energy
M = mass
C = specific heat capacity
T1 = Final temperature
T2 = Initial temperature

E = 1000 * 4200 * (100 - 0)
E = 420,000,000 J

Finally, we'll take the energy needed to convert it to Steam at 100 C, with water's latent heat of vaporization which is 2.3 x 10^6 J

Using this equation

E = L(hv) * M

where;

E= energy
L(hv) = Latent heat of vaporization
M = mass

E = (1000) * (2.3 x 10^6)
E = 2,300,000,000 J

So to take the total heat o turning 1 Metric ton of Ice at 0 C into Steam at 100 C you'd find the sum of all these values.

333,000,000 + 420,000,000 + 2,300,000,000 = 3,053,000,000 J

So that's how much energy Raiku and Taiyo need to produce to melt Tsuki's Ice creation. I won't be calculating using FBS as the heat source because emission from spherical objects is a pain in the ass and I'm not doing that right now.

At a basic level, taking it as two flames producing the aforementioned amount of energy, and assuming a low value like they dish out that much energy per second, it'd take 1340 seconds, or about 22 minutes to melt all that Ice.

Fortunately for us, we don't need a metric ton of steam (cause why would we?)

so let's call up a casual number like 5kg of steam and Ima do some very unmathematical BS right here which may or may not actually give accurate calculations, but since 5/1000 = 5 x 10^-3, we can multiply that by the energy value from before and get a value of 15,265,000J and now taking this much smaller value we can calculate and say that it'd take about 6~7 seconds to melt 5 Kg of Ice.
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TL;DR Sooooo yea, about 10 more seconds of extra work if you will.

V~!! Managed to put some study material to use. Well...I don't get tested on Heat Capacity anymore though...

I've got Calculus tmrw though, so I guess the math is helping me.

 

[SageNeb]

Cool. Good thing you had tldr at the end or else that would’ve been a waste of time. No offense. Also I still can’t do it since I’m not near the river.

Edit: and it’s frozen

 

[SageNeb]

Oh just looked at the map. Yea nvm you can use the river

Edit: tsuki can, I mean. Unless your plan of 10 sec extreme heat water still works with frozen river

 

[kyuukestu]

Cool. Good thing you had tldr at the end or else that would’ve been a waste of time. No offense. Also I still can’t do it since I’m not near the river.

Edit: and it’s frozen

Nai Nai, the calculations were for going straight from Ice to Steam, so no worries about the Frozen part.

 

[kyuukestu]

There's another string of calculation you can perform to see how long it'd take for the ice to naturally melt, but I was never the best at Rate of Flow calculations so I don't really wanna bother attempting that. (The water flowing beneath the River automatically adds energy to the Ice causing it to melt, hence why flowing water melts Ice rather quickly)

I'd need to pull random values of the air for surface area and thickness of the Ice and all sorts of BS, so no thank you.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Okay I’m back. Long warhammer game

I’ll work on a post now

 

[Godjacob]

I can’t really think of a good reason. Their interactions during the timeskip were probably just them constantly arguing. How did they even live under the same roof for three months?! Lmao

Would it be fine if I brought up Kiro asking for advice only for Tayuya to call him a bitch and too fuck off?

Being called a bitch would set him on the right track though. Instead of worrying about the pain and other side effects, Kiro should actually stop being a bitch and just let the curse mark do it’s thing. Not having the will to use it hinders the effect of the mark in the first place. It’ll actually go dormant if he doesn’t use it.

I'd say just have Kiro go talk to Tayuya. I will do what I feel is a natural reaction. If there is a specific mention of bitch to help set this path off I shall do just that.

 

[sSoul]

Cool. Good thing you had tldr at the end or else that would’ve been a waste of time. No offense. Also I still can’t do it since I’m not near the river.

Edit: and it’s frozen

I can relate, it's nice to know Kyuu can math, but if I wanted a math lecture at 11:49 P.M, I'd watch math tutor videos.

TL;DR Sooooo yea, about 10 more seconds of extra work if you will.

This works so long as the Yuki don't capitalize on it, Tsuki knows that it's easier for the Yuki to manipulate pre-existing ice rather than create ice. I mean, I never froze the river for no reason...Im d ont suck that much yes I do

 

[SageNeb]

Ok but how can it work if taiyo and raiku are seperated?

 

[kyuukestu]

Well, a steam explosion would be pointless right now, they'd jus off-set it with the already existing Ice. But that's totally fine, Kai's using big moves, Tsuki's Freezing whole rivers in efforts to counter us, at this rate they'll run themselves dry of chakra before we even decide on a plan.

 

[SageNeb]

Well, a steam explosion would be pointless right now, they'd jus off-set it with the already existing Ice. But that's totally fine, Kai's using big moves, Tsuki's Freezing whole rivers in efforts to counter us, at this rate they'll run themselves dry of chakra before we even decide on a plan.

true, just because the ice uses pre existing water doesn’t mean creating ice from a river as a fresh genin uses little chakra

 

[sSoul]

Well, a steam explosion would be pointless right now, they'd jus off-set it with the already existing Ice. But that's totally fine, Kai's using big moves, Tsuki's Freezing whole rivers in efforts to counter us, at this rate they'll run themselves dry of chakra before we even decide on a plan.

Not to mention Seiun is going to be coughing up blood by th2 time he gets back to Hama.(this would also happen to Taiyo, but we'll cross that bridge when we get to it) Point is, Team Mist is screwed.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Well, a steam explosion would be pointless right now, they'd jus off-set it with the already existing Ice. But that's totally fine, Kai's using big moves, Tsuki's Freezing whole rivers in efforts to counter us, at this rate they'll run themselves dry of chakra before we even decide on a plan.

You do play On a weakness of kai’s: his touchy temper. You force him to make big moves so quickly. He’s starting to run low on juice.

 

[Retro Master]

I'd say just have Kiro go talk to Tayuya. I will do what I feel is a natural reaction. If there is a specific mention of bitch to help set this path off I shall do just that.

I’m down. However, this specific interaction will need to be taking place in the past. You fine with that?

But yeah, having his inspiration come from being called a bitch is pretty close to my last resort. If all else fails...

Kiro: Fine. I’ll do it myself.

 

[kyuukestu]

You do play On a weakness of kai’s: his touchy temper. You force him to make big moves so quickly. He’s starting to run low on juice.

Eh, Furījia's a childish character, she does kiddy things like make faces at her opponents. Kai being equally as childish and reacting was, in fact, no strategy on my part lmao.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Eh, Furījia's a childish character, she does kiddy things like make faces at her opponents. Kai being equally as childish and reacting was, in fact, no strategy on my part lmao.

Yeahhhh guess that’s just kai’s very blatant personality XD

 

[Retro Master]

Hybrid techqiue of both the Hü and the Yuki parts of his blood. A clan so deadly that they needed to be wiped out. By ME and my clan. Now, do you think your entire team could even manage against something of that tier? Here’s your way out. Blood. Give it to me.”

Why does she want their blood? Am I missing something?

 

[Godjacob]

I’m down. However, this specific interaction will need to be taking place in the past. You fine with that?

But yeah, having his inspiration come from being called a bitch is pretty close to my last resort. If all else fails...

Kiro: Fine. I’ll do it myself.

So we RP back and forth....but in Flashback format?

 

[sSoul]

Blood. Give it to me.”

Sounds like something a Hü would say, I say we kill her where she stands.

 

[kyuukestu]

Why does she want their blood? Am I missing something?

The Hu's kekkei genkai is based on living beings. I think blood is likely a very useful catalyst for certain jutsu or set-ups. Either way, Kakashi is free to give away the Blood of anyone that's not a Hyūga.

 

[Godjacob]

Shen sure loves his blood sample plot lines. First Kabuto with the hospital, now Hama here.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Why does she want their blood? Am I missing something?

She’s a medic, and she is responsible for also catelouging all kinds of justu specialists and families. Not to mention she had vials of blood from the wounded she found in the Kohona invasion. She’s been doing this for a while

Sounds like something a Hü would say, I say we kill her where she stands.

Well no mercy huh? XD

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

The Hu's kekkei genkai is based on living beings. I think blood is likely a very useful catalyst for certain jutsu or set-ups. Either way, Kakashi is free to give away the Blood of anyone that's not a Hyūga.

That and she seems to be an experimental medic, making the first breakthrough's in the medical field using unorthodox methods, including both Kai and Tsuki as an example

Shen sure loves his blood sample plot lines. First Kabuto with the hospital, now Hama here.

What makes you think they aren’t one in the same?

You should read carefully what Kabuto has said.

 

[Retro Master]

So we RP back and forth....but in Flashback format?

Yeah. Something like that.

She’s a medic, and she is responsible for also catelouging all kinds of justu specialists and families. Not to mention she had vials of blood from the wounded she found in the Kohona invasion. She’s been doing this for a while

Well no mercy huh? XD

Alright. I didn’t want to wrongfully assume she was a Hü. Still a bit suspicious tho

 

[SageNeb]

Confused on how or why Kai is targeting someone on another island.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Confused on how or why Kai is targeting someone on another island.

First of all, easier to see amongst the mist. Second of all, they aren’t that far away, as I doubt Raiku swam that distance

 

[SageNeb]

Raiku isn’t in the mist anymore. He’s in a different area from the konoha fight, across the river so he’s near team iwa. Tbh idk why I made it so he’s near that team, but yea.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Raiku isn’t in the mist anymore. He’s in a different area from the konoha fight, across the river so he’s near team iwa. Tbh idk why I made it so he’s near that team, but yea.

? How would he move all the way over there so quick? Also, the out of the mist thing is the sole reason Kai headed for him

 

[Godjacob]

I think we need that Island Map with updated coordinates XD

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

I think we need that Island Map with updated coordinates XD

Yeahhhh probably XD


Also, Absurd is getting even further Absurd

 

[SageNeb]

Tsuki icewalked over the river when she was caught up in the Genjutsu, after Raiku started the smoke trap he simply followed her quickly and stealthily. The point was to isolate them from the other people of the teams

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Tsuki icewalked over the river when she was caught up in the Genjutsu, after Raiku started the smoke trap he simply followed her quickly and stealthily. The point was to isolate them from the other people of the teams

And everything changed when the ice serpent attacked

 

[SageNeb]

Hmm... wait! I’m good. I just made 200 IQ strategy. Ez

Edit: who’s hyo fighting

 

[kyuukestu]

First of all, easier to see amongst the mist. Second of all, they aren’t that far away, as I doubt Raiku swam that distance

Oh, that reminds me. Apparently, not even Zabuza can see through his own Mist, in fact, it's implied by Kakashi that he has his eyes shut half the time

Well, since I didn't go out of my way to say Hyō made the Mist super thick or anything I'm not really gonna argue this point. Zabuza navigates his Mist through electroreception or something smh.