Private/Closed Naruto AU RP: discussion

[sSoul]

If I had to describe her it'd be a good-guy with unscrupulous means.

Who sold her soul to Ninja Satan mk 2(Pain/Nagato).

 

[Godjacob]

Azumi isn't evil though, she fits a very nice neutral. She's a neutral because she doesn't fit any one of the villain traits, she's just moving with accordance with her own beliefs and considering her grand goal is like...equality or something, she's more goody-two-shoes than most of our neutrals. If I had to describe her it'd be a good-guy with unscrupulous means.

Give Azumi her first mission I have in mind and we'll see if you still believe that

 

[Retro Master]

And honestly for a "neutral" Kiro has a worse crime rate than many villains

That’s kind of what I’m going for lel

Though Kiro is a flat out criminal, even planning to commit theft as we speak

Wait, who is he trying too steal from now?

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Azumi is neutral...until you remember she prays to the Akatsuki

 

[Retro Master]

Azumi is neutral...until you remember she prays to the Akatsuki

And her god is Pain

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

That’s kind of what I’m going for lel


Wait, who is he trying too steal from now?

Kiba swords if I recall

 

[kyuukestu]

Give Azumi her first mission I have in mind and we'll see if you still believe that

Lmao, all you characters are protagonists in my head, I just can't really see you with a genuinely evil and despicable character. Well, I look forward to the heights of evil you'll achieve.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Lmao, all you characters are protagonists in my head, I just can't really see you with a genuinely evil and despicable character. Well, I look forward to the heights of evil you'll achieve.

Will it be darker than the Hü however?

 

[sSoul]

I simply can't do villains, I mean look at Seiun, he was supposed to be a villain, and we all know how that worked out...

 

[Godjacob]

Lmao, all you characters are protagonists in my head, I just can't really see you with a genuinely evil and despicable character. Well, I look forward to the heights of evil you'll achieve.

Azuni I do intend to cross that threshold. Everyone else I have written that way because the morality scales here quite frankly stink. Though honestly my cast probably only make the "good" ninja look weaker as a whole XD

 

[kyuukestu]

The Akatsuki aren't really evil either when they're led by Pain/Nagato. Their grand goal is world peace through centralization of power, sorta like a dictatorship. When they're led by Obito though their goal becomes...well, I'm not too sure what Obito's goal was.

 

[Retro Master]

Kiba swords if I recall

Oh I thought you meant like rn lel

Stealing something from his old home... should be fun XD

 

[Godjacob]

The Akatsuki aren't really evil either when they're led by Pain/Nagato. Their grand goal is world peace through centralization of power, sorta like a dictatorship. When they're led by Obito though their goal becomes...well, I'm not too sure what Obito's goal was.

Hidan was a literal cultist and almost every member of the Akatsuki (Minus Itachi and maybe Konan/Kisame) was a scumbag. Nagato's plan was nuking the world. That is a bad guy even if you sympathize with him.

 

[Retro Master]

The Akatsuki aren't really evil either when they're led by Pain/Nagato. Their grand goal is world peace through centralization of power, sorta like a dictatorship. When they're led by Obito though their goal becomes...well, I'm not too sure what Obito's goal was.

It was world peace as well. He wanted to put everyone in a dream where they got what they wanted. Plus it would technically mean no more wars.

 

[kyuukestu]

Will it be darker than the Hü however?

The Hu are kinda in a grey area at the moment since their intentions haven't actually been revealed. Their methods are gruesome and downright repulsive but that's where most of their perceived evil is coming from.

 

[Godjacob]

It was world peace as well. He wanted to put everyone in a dream where they got what they wanted. Plus it would technically mean no more wars.

......all just because his crush died by the way. One that didn't even like him that way.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Oh I thought you meant like rn lel

Stealing the something from his old home... should be fun XD

Kai: NO YOU AIN’T

Hidan was a literal cultist and almost every member of the Akatsuki (Minus Itachi and maybe Konan/Kisame) was a scumbag. Nagato's plan was nuking the world. That is a bad guy even if you sympathize with him.

Fun fact: I originally planned to make a jashinist OC in the beginning of this Rp, but instead chose Kai

 

[Retro Master]

......all just because his crush died by the way. One that didn't even like him that way.

I’ve watched and read so many things about this too know it’s more than that. It’s too late for me to dive into it though.

Still don’t understand how Naruto called him the coolest guy lel

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

The Hu are kinda in a grey area at the moment since their intentions haven't actually been revealed. Their methods are gruesome and downright repulsive but that's where most of their perceived evil is coming from.

Very true, much is mysterious about them so far...but all will be revealed sooner than you think...

 

[Godjacob]

Also Obito is totally evil. He is responsible for the biggest war in Naruto history, gleefully mocked Neji after killing him directly (Along with dozens of others) and unleashed the Nine Tails in Konoha (Which did nothing to advance the Eye on the Moon Plan either...that was just him being a dick).

His "redemption" is the most forced in the history of anything.

 

[sSoul]

Very true, much is mysterious about them so far...but all will be revealed sooner than you think...

Oh yeah, the Hü are the scariest of people's, especially Haiahu or whatever her name was, point is, she's been biding her time until she can release her Eldricth Abomination army onto the world

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Also Obito is totally evil. He is responsible for the biggest war in Naruto history, gleefully mocked Neji after killing him directly (Along with dozens of others) and unleashed the Nine Tails in Konoha (Which did nothing to advance the Eye on the Moon Plan either...that was just him being a dick).

His "redemption" is the most forced in the history of anything.

I never did like Obito. I preferred him as Tobi

 

[kyuukestu]

Hidan was a literal cultist and almost every member of the Akatsuki (Minus Itachi and maybe Konan/Kisame) was a scumbag. Nagato's plan was nuking the world. That is a bad guy even if you sympathize with him.

It was world peace as well. He wanted to put everyone in a dream where they got what they wanted. Plus it would technically mean no more wars.

Depends on what you're gonna be describing evil as.

If the means justify the end then they're all good guys.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

If the means justify the end then they're all good guys.

Wouldn’t go that far.

That’s like saying thanos was a good guy

 

[Godjacob]

If the means justify the end then they're all good guys.

....you could apply this to Hitler, does that make him a "good guy?" I think this is a terrible measure of morality judging personally.

 

[kyuukestu]

....you could apply this to Hitler, does that make him a "good guy?" I think this is a terrible measure of morality judging personally.

Wouldn’t go that far.

That’s like saying thanos was a good guy

'If', that's a very operative word. Paired with what I'd said before, it depends on how you're going to define evil.

 

[Retro Master]

Thanos was the coolest guy along with Obito

Spoiler: Potential Endgame Spoilers

Watch them have to work with Thanos to face the rumored greater threat

 

[Godjacob]

'If', that's a very operative word. Paired with what I'd said before, it depends on how you're going to define evil.

Yeah I'll just say I disagree with that view and leave it at that.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

King Kai is the purest faction, that’s for sure though XD

 

[kyuukestu]

The view was meant to be subjective from the start. I'd said If the means justify the end then they're all good guys. It's up to you to affirm or deny the statement.

Given your own examples;

Do the means justify the end?

Does Genocide (the means) justify Hitler's goal(the end)?

Note that I didn't say definitively the means always justify the end, or any such variation of that.

 

[Mystic Zander]

Amegakure has Pain, Danzo is gonna run the Leaf, Rasa may end up being brainwashed or driven to side with Orochimaru and the Mist's most powerful figures are bad guys minus Mei. Ay and Onoki are neutral at best.

The bulk of power fighters are dark figures. And so will the powers to be when we get it moving.

Me: *casually hides Ichiko and Kido's character sheets* I'm not even gonna talk power, I'm just gonna pounce.

 

[Mystic Zander]

Also I don't understand why everyone's so hesitant about Katsuo's morality. Of course he's a good guy. I mean hell, in my opinion, he's the 'GOODEST!' guy in the whole rp. XD

 

[Godjacob]

Also I don't understand why everyone's so hesitant about Katsuo's morality. Of course he's a good guy. I mean hell, in my opinion, he's the 'GOODEST!' guy in the whole rp. XD

I still think Tomiko has him beat. Just Katsuo is higher tier so he is a better rep overall XD

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Also I don't understand why everyone's so hesitant about Katsuo's morality. Of course he's a good guy. I mean hell, in my opinion, he's the 'GOODEST!' guy in the whole rp. XD

I still think Tomiko has him beat. Just Katsuo is higher tier so he is a better rep overall XD

Out of the way both of you, Kou is best Boy XD

 

[Godjacob]

Out of the way both of you, Kou is best Boy XD

I mean he did kinda side with the Sound here. Tomiko, despite knowing the Sound is evil, still helped him and Zaku even in her crippled state out of moral principle despite her hating what Zaku had done.

 

[sSoul]

Also I don't understand why everyone's so hesitant about Katsuo's morality. Of course he's a good guy. I mean hell, in my opinion, he's the 'GOODEST!' guy in the whole rp. XD

I still think Tomiko has him beat. Just Katsuo is higher tier so he is a better rep overall XD

Taiyo: Do I get consideration?

Out of the way both of you, Kou is best Boy XD

He doesn't count, he's a child.
Btw Kou if your reading this I apologize from the bottom of my heart if I hurt your feelings.

 

[Mystic Zander]

I still think Tomiko has him beat. Just Katsuo is higher tier so he is a better rep overall XD

Tomiko wants to do more than make the entire world uniform and collaborative so everyone can reach there peak potential.? Let's go.

Edit: Sorry I just don't see any goal making a person 'better' that someone seeking literal world peace.

Being nice and having a purer moral are very different. Tomiko is one if those things. XD

 

[Godjacob]

Tomiko wants to do more than make the entire world uniform and collaborative so everyone can reach there peak potential.? Let's go.

And she will make certain that happens! Or end up dying at some point, either or.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

I mean he did kinda side with the Sound here. Tomiko, despite knowing the Sound is evil, still helped him and Zaku even in her crippled state out of moral principle despite her hating what Zaku had done.

Okay, that’s a pretty strong argument for Tomiko...especially since doing all of that after being crippled

Taiyo: Do I get consideration?

He doesn't count, he's a child.
Btw Kou if your reading this I apologize from the bottom of my heart if I hurt your feelings.

Kou: *Puppy dog eyes* I don’t...matter...?

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Tomiko wants to do more than make the entire world uniform and collaborative so everyone can reach there peak potential.? Let's go.

Edit: Sorry I just don't see any goal making a person 'better' that someone seeking literal world peace.

Being nice and having a purer moral are very different. Tomiko is one if those things. XD

And she will make certain that happens! Or end up dying at some point, either or.