Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Ha! A bold claim.
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With the other four nations basically, the closest of allies, the amount of growth they could go through is not something the Mist on its own could ever compete with, especially since there's literally no reason for them to interact with the Mist and vice-versa.Ha! A bold claim.
The tree-hugger club would simply skyrocket to a new age faster than any other nation could.
SageNeb
Previously 5DigitNeb
what's stronger, shen's power as rp creator or 4 nations ultimate alliance to become an unstoppable force?Ha! A bold claim.
To give a real-life example, the 5 Nations are the nations on the Iberian Peninsula during the Middle Ages, the Continental Nations are Aragon and Castile, and the Mist ends up Portugal. Aragon and Castile fuse into Spain and proceed to become the single strongest power in that corner of the world. Portugal is still a mighty power, but its not exactly on the same level as Spain at the height of its power.
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Look at Nazi germany. They were mighty despite being small on the global scale. Went on to conquer France, and fight Russia, Brits, and America at the same time.
We weren’t talking about a united front vs mist
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
In this example it’s reffering to the mist as nazi’s Germany isolated powerhouse/ fanatical purifier esk style of ruling
Which they managed to do because everyone had just come out of WW I and didn't want another war on their hands, and they had Military might superior on a 1 to 1 scale than that of the other European powers because the things they were doing were outlawed by the treaty of Versailles.
They took Poland and Chezslovakia with almost 0 interference from the allies, and France was never their opponent, to begin with. France and Germany and not equivalent powers during the 19 hundreds. Germany is a far stronger country because its created by the combination of several Germanic states with Prussia. Now Prussia is comparable to France.
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Which also the ninja world came out of a war as well. And the ‘allies’ are fighting the sound, losing even more casualties
You act as if the mist won’t grow. In fact they already are, swallowing up land of fire territory as we speak. Hence the hozuki plan. The mist are mighty in their own right. Boosted from canon due to the Yuki there as a clan and less casualties from the bloody mist times
Furthermore, they never fought Frane, Russia, Britain, and America at the same time.
Hitler had a non-aggression agreement with Stalin. So while he was there ripping France to shreds, Russia- then the USSR- wasn't really doing anything to them. It wasn't until France was dealt with, and Hitler thought the Brits would capitulate quickly -which they didn't- that he turned around attacked the USSR.
During all this America was merely selling supplies to the allies. It wasn't until Japan attacked Pearl Habour that the USA fully committed to the war, at which point Germany ended up losing miserably.
Hitler had a non-aggression agreement with Stalin. So while he was there ripping France to shreds, Russia- then the USSR- wasn't really doing anything to them. It wasn't until France was dealt with, and Hitler thought the Brits would capitulate quickly -which they didn't- that he turned around attacked the USSR.
During all this America was merely selling supplies to the allies. It wasn't until Japan attacked Pearl Habour that the USA fully committed to the war, at which point Germany ended up losing miserably.
They're mighty, but nothing in comparison to the combined might of the other 4 Nations.
Need I remind you that even Nazi Germany had allies in Japan, Italy, and a few other minor countries.
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Why in the world would I compare the mist to the rest of the combined four?? XD
If the Mist is the aggressor they end up exactly like Germany. They gain massively at the start of the War because no one was expecting it, but they don't have the resources and manpower to keep up with the combined might of basically the entire world, so they get beaten back into submission.
Cause that's what I was talking about.
I said the Mist isn't one of the 5 Great Nations again because of the other 4 Buddy-up because their Leaders are basically in bed together, literally and figuratively. Thus their combined might and growth ends up outstripping the Mist.
Idk, why are you?
Cause that's what I was talking about.
I said the Mist isn't one of the 5 Great Nations again because of the other 4 Buddy-up because their Leaders are basically in bed together, literally and figuratively. Thus their combined might and growth ends up outstripping the Mist.
Doesn't change much...Slavery is probably legal now though, and the Mist gets added to that Super-Alliance because Tsuki and Taiyo are in bed together.
Kenji feels incredibly left out at 5 Kage summits because Yasu-Tomiko, and Taiyo-Tsuki probably do unspeakable things at night and he's just left there feeling super awkward.
They still all implode after a while, its just the way of the world.
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
I told Nebulix already I wasn’t. But they would surpass the norm of nation strength
Like they would all band together and attack the mist just cause. The mist would never be the aggressors. They are Xenophobes, as in they want nothing to do with you, not fight a war with you XD. Isolationists
Errr, that's what I'd said originally.
The Mist is a force to be reckoned with but it's nothing in comparison to the other 4 Combined. They're all tree-huggers so they wouldn't attack the Mist, and the Mist just goes off on its own. Even if they did attack the Mist...it doesn't stand a chance.
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Need i remind you that the four have gone to war with each other...several times
You didn't read my message...did you...
With Yasu and Tomiko literally in bed together, Suna and Iwa achieve a shaky but feasible peace. With Taiyo heading Konoha, and them already having an alliance with Suna, this easily becomes a three-way alliance. Kenji, being controlled by godjacob is probably pacifist and joins in on this alliance.
It's a shaky peace, but it would last for at the very least their generation. Anyone that really objects won't have the power necessary to do anything about it as they could be put down quite handily with help from the other nations. Normally, this would never happen as its a bad idea to invite former enemies into your home to help quell your problems, but between Yasu, Tomiko, Kenji, and Taiyo, neither of them have that sort of distrusting nature.
Yes. Kai is Hitler.
And I'm not gonna lie, Kyuu's thinking process has basically been my mindset the whole time.
Even with an army of highly skilled shinobi, the Mist would get thrashed.
You used Nazi Germany as a reference? That scenario plays out quite a bit different than your brief, "there small but mighty" statement above.
Germany had some advantages that the Mist don't.
Its the reason Shen's secret mist plans don't worry me. Because if the Mist somehow managed to rule all and become a monopoly, I, and likely a few others, would call him on that bullshit.
Buuuu potential war aside, I don't care who the Kage is, Katsuo will still give each of you a hard time once in office.
Edit: All this reminds me. The fact that the Mist invaded the Land of Fire with absolute ease pisses me off.
sSoul
Previously Swirled
At that point, the bed is the discussion table and once the meeting ajourns, the aggressive session of unspeakable things begin.
Eh, more like they managed to put 1 town under genjutsu and want to start something with that town as a jumping point.
I eagerly await what they'll actually do though. Mei has no knowledge of this, so its basically a secret Yuki project.
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Oh as in if those people were Kage? Well I’m reffering to in actuality
Yes. Kai is Hitler.
And I'm not gonna lie, Kyuu's thinking process has basically been my mindset the whole time.
Even with an army of highly skilled shinobi, the Mist would get thrashed.
You used Nazi Germany as a reference? That scenario plays out quite a bit different than your brief, "there small but mighty" statement above.
Germany had some advantages that the Mist don't.
Its the reason Shen's secret mist plans don't worry me. Because if the Mist somehow managed to rule all and become a monopoly, I, and likely a few others, would call him on that bullshit.
Buuuu potential war aside, I don't care who the Kage is, Katsuo will still give each of you a hard time once in office.
Edit: All this reminds me. The fact that the Mist invaded the Land of Fire with absolute ease pisses me off.
The mist aren’t going to ‘rule all’ per say. Just more so he alone and mighty. But don’t think the mist is going to stay it’s size.
Sure, Nazi germany has advantages. But as I said, the mist hasn’t reached it’s peak growth yet. And no reasonable nation would want to declare war on them in fear of the other nations taking advantage of that. Especially with the Kohona civil war on the horizons
*flips table* This entire discussion is about what happens if those people are Kage. You've been skimming too much.
I don't see them being capable of taking land from Konoha though.
I've you'd aimed for one of the Minor nations then maybe, but they'll get evicted from Konoha after a while.
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
I thought we moved on.
They already in the process of doing so, with your aid i might add
With daiymo’s how they are? Yeah I think it’ll be easy once the entire place decides to secede.
SageNeb
Previously 5DigitNeb
Meh, thing is I don't see I don't see a way that someone has told Konoha yet. Maybe after this arc I can do a mission on it.
And civil war or not, I'm fairly certain that basically every other nation would take notice when your Nazi Germany forces start to grow in size. XD
That's not something to be taken lightly by another nation. You've basically aimed your nukes at us.
Also, Kai is close to basically handing Katsuo his end goal.
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Except no one knows. Not even the people in that land know
SageNeb
Previously 5DigitNeb
That's the point. It'd have to take a ninja going to that town during a village for Konoha to know. Then we can act on it.
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
They don’t even know Pain is leading the rain, let alone growing forces in the mist XD. They are very blind to the simplest of things, such as the sound being ruled by Orochimaru.
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Why would they want to visit an Outskirt fishing town? Seems too convenient
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Lel Why did you delete this?
Well, we did now...
Yea, even with my help I don't see a successful take-over because I'm on both sides :T
I don't see any significant chunk of Land...or any at all for that matter, coming from this endeavor.
The people's opinion...does not matter. If they want to 'secede' its a rebellion and that is crushed the good old fashion way.
Besides, you're not going through the Daimyo, what makes you think we would? Everyone already acts like the Ninja Villages are their own nations.
SageNeb
Previously 5DigitNeb
That's the point. Neither the Daimyo nor the Village has a way to learn of it. And to be honest it doesn't seem as big as a deal as the technical version. Sure it's "invading a country" but it's actually more so "we're taking a tiny amount of fishing space." If the invasion were to grow to something as to a decent amount of fishing territory, Konoha would be alerted.
Shen: King of Digimon
Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Yet you said nothing of the sort when you were helping me. Yet you claim to be on both sides *doubt* oh well, it seems I have to go it myself then. I have contingencies.
Which the mist would then guarantee independence. Would they really risk war with the mist over that? Especially with their current war with the sound.