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Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
What's their powers, then? Judging EXCLUSIVELY by the games?
Because I'd argue that even with their anime powers Metal Sonic eviscerates all of them.

The same exact ones. Except Krack’s are more defined and less wonky

A bold claim. Not sure how you figure that. Besides, once specter defeats Metal Sonic the rest have no competition
 
Metal Sonic can give Sonic a run for his money. He outclasses him in skills, and can even outspeed him judging on which game you're looking at. He constantly scales to Sonic as an equal, and has consistently more versatility. Sonic would wipe the floor with the Pipotrons, and Metal Sonic could do that and more.
Even without Metal Sonic, Eggman could definitely outwit Specter. Yes, Specter's a genius, but Eggman has superior intellect.
Again, Specter himself is the only real obstacle the Empire has thanks to the Super Badniks.
 

Funny Sans Rat

Previously The Bog Hog
Hell, in one move, Goblin Slayer can cut off Specter's limbs, wanna know how? Portal spell, he opens a portal to the bottom of the ocean, the pressure makes the water a blade, cutting straight through his limbs, but Specter isn't as much of a problem as goblins, so he doesn't care, he'd leave him there to die, he probably would even use it, wanna know why? SPECTER ISN'T A GOBLIN, and wouldn't be as much of a challenge as a goblin horde.

The same exact ones. Except Krack’s are more defined and less wonky

A bold claim. Not sure how you figure that. Besides, once specter defeats Metal Sonic the rest have no competition
We have another Metal Sonic after that, one that'd drill holes in all of their chests, once he's done finishing what the other Metal left behind, I don't know their power levels, but I know mine could stop Pipotron Whatever's blade. Kick the shit out of the chameleon one, and then who knows? I don't, because none of them are memorable, I don't even remember their names.
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Metal Sonic can give Sonic a run for his money. He outclasses him in skills, and can even outspeed him judging on which game you're looking at. He constantly scales to Sonic as an equal, and has consistently more versatility. Sonic would wipe the floor with the Pipotrons, and Metal Sonic could do that and more.
Even without Metal Sonic, Eggman could definitely outwit Specter. Yes, Specter's a genius, but Eggman has superior intellect.
Again, Specter himself is the only real obstacle the Empire has thanks to the Super Badniks.
But Metal gets thrashed at every turn by sonic no matter what variation.

Pipotron Meta can become Metal, but weaker stats.

Pipotron j can speed closer to metal for it to actually be a threat to him

G is useless

And crack can teleport Metal Sonic where he desires and also teleport things in front of him while he is going that speed
 

Funny Sans Rat

Previously The Bog Hog
But Metal gets thrashed at every turn by sonic no matter what variation.

Pipotron Meta can become Metal, but weaker stats.

Pipotron j can speed closer to metal for it to actually be a threat to him

G is useless

And crack can teleport Metal Sonic where he desires and also teleport things in front of him while he is going that speed
Once again, you're using the "villain was beaten by hero, therefore villain sucks"
 
Hell, in one move, Goblin Slayer can cut off Specter's limbs, wanna know how? Portal spell, he opens a portal to the bottom of the ocean, the pressure makes the water a blade, cutting straight through his limbs, but Specter isn't as much of a problem as goblins, so he doesn't care, he'd leave him there to die, he probably would even use it, wanna know why? SPECTER ISN'T A GOBLIN, and wouldn't be as much of a challenge as a goblin horde.


We have another Metal Sonic after that, one that'd drill holes in all of their chests, once he's done finishing what the other Metal left behind, I don't know their power levels, but I know mine could stop Pipotron Whatever's blade. Kick the shit out of the chameleon one, and then who knows? I don't, because none of them are memorable, I don't even remember their names.
Eh, I think you're going a bit overboard here... Specter's not that strong, but he's not that weak either.
And Eggman usually only has one Metal at a time. Yes, he can and SHOULD get more... but he never does.
But Metal gets thrashed at every turn by sonic no matter what variation.

Pipotron Meta can become Metal, but weaker stats.

Pipotron j can speed closer to metal for it to actually be a threat to him

G is useless

And crack can teleport Metal Sonic where he desires and also teleport things in front of him while he is going that speed
-Actually, Neo stomped Sonic completely in IDW, but we did say we're not counting those. Metal Overlord took three Super characters to take it out.
-Meta wouldn't get the chance. The instant he shifts, Metal slashes him apart.
-J is fast, but nothing compared to Metal.
-Crack might be a problem... until Metal activates Chaos Control. Yeah, he can do that in his base. See Sonic Rivals. He’s also got Silver’s telekinesis and several other copied abilities.
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Actually, Neo stomped Sonic completely in IDW, but we did say we're not counting those. Metal Overlord took three Super characters to take it out.
Overlord? Yes. Did he fight with eggman and his empire? No.

Meta wouldn't get the chance. The instant he shifts, Metal slashes him apart.
Not true. He cannot he killed so easy. He would turn into a liquid first so he can’t be killed by physical means, and then turn into metal. He turned into specter and copied his abilities before

is fast, but nothing compared to Meta
Enough not to be punked so easy

Crack might be a problem... until Metal activates Chaos Control. Yeah, he can do that in his base. See Sonic Rivals. He’s also got Silver’s telekinesis and several other copied abilities.
Hm I haven’t see that before. If so he never used it outside riders. Crack can also teleport allies out of the line of an otherwise lethal blow
 
Speaking of Rivals, actually, in Rivals 2, Metal and Shadow were able to team up and take down the Ifrit by themselves.
Who is literally the devil.
Oh and they also fought off Silver and Espio while doing that.
 

Funny Sans Rat

Previously The Bog Hog
Eh, I think you're going a bit overboard here... Specter's not that strong, but he's not that weak either.
And Eggman usually only has one Metal at a time. Yes, he can and SHOULD get more... but he never does.

-Actually, Neo stomped Sonic completely in IDW, but we did say we're not counting those. Metal Overlord took three Super characters to take it out.
-Meta wouldn't get the chance. The instant he shifts, Metal slashes him apart.
-J is fast, but nothing compared to Metal.
-Crack might be a problem... until Metal activates Chaos Control. Yeah, he can do that in his base. See Sonic Rivals. He’s also got Silver’s telekinesis and several other copied abilities.
True, I just kinda got mad for no reason.
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Speaking of Rivals, actually, in Rivals 2, Metal and Shadow were able to team up and take down the Ifrit by themselves.
Who is literally the devil.
Oh and they also fought off Silver and Espio while doing that.

Can’t exactly say how strong that compares, although specter can still summon the devil
 
Can’t exactly say how strong that compares, although specter can still summon the devil
It’s capable of destroying worlds effortlessly :p
Overlord? Yes. Did he fight with eggman and his empire? No.


Not true. He cannot he killed so easy. He would turn into a liquid first so he can’t be killed by physical means, and then turn into metal. He turned into specter and copied his abilities before


Enough not to be punked so easy


Hm I haven’t see that before. If so he never used it outside riders. Crack can also teleport allies out of the line of an otherwise lethal blow
Actually, Metal Overlord is far superior to any ship in the Egg Fleet - he used the Egg Fleet as SPARE PARTS. Not even Omega or Shadow could cause substantial damage. The only other foe in Sonic history who’s needed THREE Super beings to take him down is Solaris.

Metal could just slash and blast. :p He can also take a liquid form of his own in his Neo form. See Heroes.

Can J come close to FTL? I thought so.

Yeah, Metal hasn’t used the copied powers since Rivals since Sonic Team kinda just forgot about them. Nevertheless, Metal can not only counter Crack’s lengthy teleportation with his own instantaneous teleportation, but also freeze time for a short time to nullify Crack’s ability to react.
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
capable of destroying worlds effortlessly :p
...yet defeated by a single droid and hedgehog

Actually, Metal Overlord is far superior to any ship in the Egg Fleet - he used the Egg Fleet as SPARE PARTS. Not even Omega or Shadow could cause substantial damage. The only other foe in Sonic history who’s needed THREE Super beings to take him down is Solaris.
Except he’s not a part of the eggman empire. He imprisoned their leader and dismantled the fleet

Metal could just slash and blast. :p He can also take a liquid form of his own in his Neo form. See Heroes.
Who again, is not with eggman

Metal can not only counter Crack’s lengthy teleportation with his own instantaneous teleportation, but also freeze time for a short time to nullify Crack’s ability to react.
It’s reverse. Crack only needs to press a button and boom. Teleport. Though freezing time is tricky, but I doubt he can just spam it all the time
 
...yet defeated by a single droid and hedgehog


Except he’s not a part of the eggman empire. He imprisoned their leader and dismantled the fleet


Who again, is not with eggman


It’s reverse. Crack only needs to press a button and boom. Teleport. Though freezing time is tricky, but I doubt he can just spam it all the time
-Yes, because Sonic bosses :p
-Actually, he IS. Neo Metal is nothing but an upgraded form of Metal, which Eggman created in the first place.
-So is it actually a button, or just an expression? Because if it's some sort of machine, that greatly reduces Crack's threat. And while I don't think he can spam it all the time, a few seconds of frozen time is all he needs to take out Crack.
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Actually, he IS. Neo Metal is nothing but an upgraded form of Metal, which Eggman created in the first place.
Which instantly betrayed him

So is it actually a button, or just an expression? Because if it's some sort of machine, that greatly reduces Crack's threat. And while I don't think he can spam it all the time, a few seconds of frozen time is all he needs to take out Crack.
Crack’s optic is very complex. Different buttons do different things, closing his left eye (eye under optic) does something as well, his power is the most confusing because of how diverse it is...it’s also the power we see the most out of the Pipotron. He was even capable of spawning in roadways, brick walls, A.I., cars, and tracks. Not to mention reading the enemy’s mind and planting thoughts in their head. Also capable of seeing across miles and miles and see a live feed of the enemy
 
Which instantly betrayed him


Crack’s optic is very complex. Different buttons do different things, closing his left eye (eye under optic) does something as well, his power is the most confusing because of how diverse it is...it’s also the power we see the most out of the Pipotron. He was even capable of spawning in roadways, brick walls, A.I., cars, and tracks. Not to mention reading the enemy’s mind and planting thoughts in their head. Also capable of seeing across miles and miles and see a live feed of the enemy
Yeah, Neo Metal did instantly betray him. However, we do now have the Defiance Kill-Switch, which is why in IDW Neo Metal serves Eggman exclusively. Thus, modern Eggman is capable of implanting the same loyalty into Neo Metal.

Crack's optic does seem interesting, but without it... Plus, mind-reading wouldn't work against Metal, nor would thought-implantation.
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
Yeah, Neo Metal did instantly betray him. However, we do now have the Defiance Kill-Switch, which is why in IDW Neo Metal serves Eggman exclusively. Thus, modern Eggman is capable of implanting the same loyalty into Neo Metal.
We are talking about video games though. Not comics remember? But interesting info

Crack's optic does seem interesting, but without it... Plus, mind-reading wouldn't work against Metal, nor would thought-implantation.
Yeah it’s the most universal weapon of the pipotrons, but that’s his only weapons outside his brain. If it is destroyed it makes him highly vulnerable, and he usually turns tail and runs the other direction when that happens. I’m sure he wouldn’t specifically search out a metal target XD he likes to prey on organics
 
We are talking about video games though. Not comics remember? But interesting info


Yeah it’s the most universal weapon of the pipotrons, but that’s his only weapons outside his brain. If it is destroyed it makes him highly vulnerable, and he usually turns tail and runs the other direction when that happens. I’m sure he wouldn’t specifically search out a metal target XD he likes to prey on organics
-Yeah, I'm just saying you can't use the argument of "oh Neo Metal would betray Eggman instantly".
-In that case... Crack would be a challenge for Metal, but would lose. And the only organic in the army, not counting comics, is Eggman himself. Since we're discussing Pipotrons vs Metal, he'd take them all out then.
 

Funny Sans Rat

Previously The Bog Hog
Also, Eevee, about the "Eggman only has one metal Sonic" I meant mine, He'd work for Eggman, as he'd think his Eggman was this Eggman. I probably will drop him with Eggman, if you're gonna use Eggman.
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
-Yeah, I'm just saying you can't use the argument of "oh Neo Metal would betray Eggman instantly".
-In that case... Crack would be a challenge for Metal, but would lose. And the only organic in the army, not counting comics, is Eggman himself. Since we're discussing Pipotrons vs Metal, he'd take them all out then.

Yeah I don’t see crack alone beating metal. But other pipotrons belong such as Meta in particular, and J. Copy Metal sonic’s form and abilities mixed with Krack blocking attacks from Metal Sonic and aiding Meta’s shape shifted form. Since Meta would be able to chaos control as well
 

Funny Sans Rat

Previously The Bog Hog
Yeah I don’t see crack alone beating metal. But other pipotrons belong such as Meta in particular, and J. Copy Metal sonic’s form and abilities mixed with Krack blocking attacks from Metal Sonic and aiding Meta’s shape shifted form. Since Meta would be able to chaos control as well
How would they fare against two Metal Sonics? Specifically one that can recreate Meta's(?) weapons, and can probably also pull off a General Grievous? Speaking of him, he's probably coming back for the sequel.
 

Shen: King of Digimon

Previously Shen: King of the Mist
How would they fare against two Metal Sonics? Specifically one that can recreate Meta's(?) weapons, and can probably also pull off a General Grievous? Speaking of him, he's probably coming back for the sequel.

Against two that’s a tall order. I don’t think they could handle two. Specter would be required for them to succeed
 
Also, Eevee, about the "Eggman only has one metal Sonic" I meant mine, He'd work for Eggman, as he'd think his Eggman was this Eggman. I probably will drop him with Eggman, if you're gonna use Eggman.
I uh... I never said I was using Eggman? As much as I love him, I'm not picking him up. The Alchemist is already around as one of Z's troops.
Yeah I don’t see crack alone beating metal. But other pipotrons belong such as Meta in particular, and J. Copy Metal sonic’s form and abilities mixed with Krack blocking attacks from Metal Sonic and aiding Meta’s shape shifted form. Since Meta would be able to chaos control as well
Meta's the only one who could give Metal Sonic trouble, as J's speed is nothing compared to Metal's. Though if Meta just goes in as a weaker Metal Sonic, he's gonna get stomped. Plus, Metal would likely take out Krack first due to seeing him as the greatest threat. Always prioritize the healer!
How would they fare against two Metal Sonics? Specifically one that can recreate Meta's(?) weapons, and can probably also pull off a General Grievous? Speaking of him, he's probably coming back for the sequel.
If you do bring Grievous back, you should probs talk with Comic and I about him, since I'm taking Lord Vader, Lady Ashla and Raptor (Anakin, Ahsoka and Rex) from an alternate timeline of mine for the sequel, and Comic is taking Obi-Wan from that timeline as well.
 

Funny Sans Rat

Previously The Bog Hog
If you do bring Grievous back, you should probs talk with Comic and I about him, since I'm taking Lord Vader, Lady Ashla and Raptor (Anakin, Ahsoka and Rex) from an alternate timeline of mine for the sequel, and Comic is taking Obi-Wan from that timeline as well.
Is having him an issue? I just wanna know. Also, since you're not taking Eggman, I assume you're not gonna use Metal Sonic .
 
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