Private/Closed Naruto AU RP: discussion

[DarkHydraT]

Except he did it to them both while also fighting off Madoka and Aisha. I think that says a lot XD

Moral of the story: Reaver is a beast and a nightmare to fight. Yet I prefer him over Sagiso

 

[Retro Master]

In this case, it would mostly be speed he's relying on though.

Sagisō simply needs to release the Chakra in her Palm.

Kiro needs to;

1. activate the curse mark
2. undo the effects of the gentle fist
3. break free of the chakra hair trap
4. (probably) free the foot he impaled on Sagisō's hair
5. do something to dodge/interrupt Sagisō palm blow

and he needs to do all of that before Sagisō can even twitch.

Can’t the clone just grab her forearm before she even brings it to Kiro abdomen? I don’t know how fast her wind shadow was but I’d like to believe LCM is on par with the speed. She went from the training hall to where Kiro was in like 2 seconds.

Edit: In a breath worth of time. So probably shorter?

The clone standing on the roof would only need a second at most from when Kiro’s sharingan is deactivated to go into lightning armor and get to Sagisō. Her leverage is that Kiro’s her hostage. But eventually he’ll overpower her which is why she needs to take him out. The clone won’t allow that which means Sagisō will have to find someway in the span of a few seconds to get rid of it.

As long as the clone doesn’t touch the hair, it’s good. One of her legs also can’t move. Even if she tries to rotate, the clone would stop her by holding her forearms. I mean there’s that one technique Kyuu seems to have forgotten but I think it needs handsigns. Basically once the palm is stopped, that gives Kiro some time to go into the cursed seal.

 

[kyuukestu]

Can’t the clone just grab her forearm before she even brings it to Kiro abdomen? I don’t know how fast her wind shadow was but I’d like to believe LCM is on par with the speed. She went from the training hall to where Kiro was in like 2 seconds.

Edit: In a breath worth of time. So probably shorter?

The clone standing on the roof would only need a second at most from when Kiro’s sharingan is deactivated to go into lightning armor and get to Sagisō. Her leverage is that Kiro’s her hostage. But eventually he’ll overpower her which is why she needs to take him out. The clone won’t allow that which means Sagisō will have to find someway in the span of a few seconds to get rid of it.

As long as the clone doesn’t touch the hair, it’s good. One of her legs also can’t move. Even if she tries to rotate, the clone would stop her by holding her forearms. I mean there’s that one technique Kyuu seems to have forgotten but I think it needs handsigns. Basically once the palm is stopped, that gives Kiro some time to go into the cursed seal.

A fair argument, though that's based on the fact that the Clone can reach Sagisō from its location before Sagisō palm can reach Kiro's chest, and I mean, those are vastly different distances.

I'd give it the green flag because Sagisō's not doing anything with haste, so you've got plenty of time.

 

[SageNeb]

op speed 10x more op than op power imo

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

op speed 10x more op than op power imo

Minato says yes

 

[Retro Master]

op speed 10x more op than op power imo

Kiro: Hmm...

Anyways hi again Nebby

 

[sSoul]

op speed 10x more op than op power imo

Taiyo:Hmmmmmmmm
Also Nebby if your not posting, can i auto Raiku for the rest of the arc?

 

[Retro Master]

Taiyo:Hmmmmmmmm
Also Nebby if your not posting, can i auto Raiku for the rest of the arc?

I’m not against this, but if he takes this offer, it could incentivize him too not even think about posting. A post-by-post basis would be better so he can at least think about coming back.

 

[Mystic Zander]

No, I actually dont't have any countermeasures against the Curse Mark, because it's essentially Senjutsu. It grants a massive boost in RAW power and Sagisō's attack potency comes from precision and flexibility. She lacks the overwhelming might to say, power up like Katsuo and them take a curse mark user head-on.

Like I'd said before, Kiro already outclasses her in most if not all stats, there isn't much I can do with you amplifying that gap. That being said though, I wouldn't mind her losing to a Curse Mark Kiro, because that's a feat in and of itself.

Katsuo isn't actually much of an enhancer. Kraken's Tendrils is the closest thing he gets to a physical augmentation jutsu, but it doesn't even affect him. His body is basically a ragdoll attached to four super augmented water prongs that he controls via muscle groups on his back, or with his chakra directly.

Blood Release isn't much of an augmentation as it just allows you to work with a denser, more resilient liquid, heavily increasing the durability of water-based jutsu.


Also, between op strength and op power, I choose above average both and steady combinations for a greater effect.

 

[kyuukestu]

Katsuo isn't actually much of an enhancer. Kraken's Tendrils is the closest thing he gets to a physical augmentation jutsu, but it doesn't even affect him. His body is basically a ragdoll attached to four super augmented water prongs that he controls via muscle groups on his back, or with his chakra directly.

Blood Release isn't much of an augmentation as it just allows you to work with a denser, more resilient liquid, heavily increasing the durability of water-based jutsu.


Also, between op strength and op power, I choose above average both and steady combinations for a greater effect.

Sagisō has neither though;

She lacks both strength and power (She actually failed to become a Chūnin because her power was deemed insufficient.)
She lacks consistent speed (Wind Shadow is a one-off thing after all)
She lacks durability
She lacks just about any super-defining feature

She's pretty average all-around, minus her chakra control which should be around the best in her age group, and sheer feats of skill.

 

[sSoul]

She lacks both strength and power (She actually failed to become a Chūnin because her power was deemed insufficient.)
She lacks consistent speed (Wind Shadow is a one-off thing after all)
She lacks durability
She lacks just about any super-defining feature

Comparing Taiyo to Sagiso in all the catergories Kyuu mentioned:
Power and strength: Nothing above average, enhanced by FBS and hes still got training to do
Consistent speed: Doesnt have that at the moment, Taiyo shpuld become way faster once he csn properly explode chakra from his feet.
Durability: Rather good, was able to take a beating to his arms and had a near brush of death with Jirobo.
Definiining features: FBS but thats kinda weak in a world of magic eyes.
Chakra Control: Decent, but leaves something to be desired.
Ill make seperate posts for Tsuki and Seiun later.

 

[kyuukestu]

Comparing Taiyo to Sagiso in all the catergories Kyuu mentioned:
Power and strength: Nothing above average, enhanced by FBS and hes still got training to do
Consistent speed: Doesnt have that at the moment, Taiyo shpuld become way faster once he csn properly explode chakra from his feet.
Durability: Rather good, was able to take a beating to his arms and had a near brush of death with Jirobo.
Definiining features: FBS but thats kinda weak in a world of magic eyes.
Chakra Control: Decent, but leaves something to be desired.
Ill make seperate posts for Tsuki and Seiun later.

FBS puts a multiplier on stats though, so all that is essentially solved by entering FBS. Flower Dance doesn't exactly do that. Flower Dance channels all her remaining chakra into 7 blows, and while it provided a sorta boost, it's no power-up mode in the sense of an all-around buff.

Working on that particular thing though.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Meanwhile curse mark boosts are...erratic...at best.

Jirobo’s increased sheer physical strength
Sakon’s increased durability and somewhat strength
Tayuya’s increased Genjustu strength
Kidomaru’s increased accuracy and ninjutsu

Zaku’s however is focused on sheer justu power. Effectively making him a glass cannon

 

[Grand Master Koop]

With Shura well
Strength and Power: Pretty average, for Hyugas anyway
Speed: Has pretty good consistent speed especially if he has his cyclone mount up
Durability: He is capable of taking hits but much prefer using his mobility to dodge than tank
Defining feature: Shura is good at using a variety of weapons and tools, also has great maneuverability
Chakra control: Good, always try to keep chakra consumption to a minimum unless pushed otherwise

 

[kyuukestu]

We should probably do that Stat charts;

Categories:

Physical Spread
Strength:
Speed:
Durability:

Shinobi Spread
Ninjutsu:
Taijutsu:
Genjutsu:
Chakra Control:
Chakra Pool:

Ranks: S - D
S > A > B > C > D

Something like that?

It would be a base stat thing though, so it scales given that all characters are Equalized.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

We should probably do that Stat charts;

Categories:

Physical Spread
Strength:
Speed:
Durability:

Chakra Spread
Ninjutsu:
Taijutsu:
Genjutsu:
Chakra Control:

Ranks: S - D
S > A > B > C > D

Something like that?

It would be a base stat thing though, so it scales given that all characters are Equalized.

I think we should also add Chakra Pool to the chakra spread sheet

 

[Grand Master Koop]

That looks like a good selections of stats

 

[kyuukestu]

I think we should also add Chakra Pool to the chakra spread sheet

added, anything else?

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

So I guess i’ll Be the guinea pig.



Zaku:


Physical Spread
Strength: C
Speed: C
Durability: C

Chakra Spread
Ninjutsu: A
Taijutsu: D
Genjutsu: F
Chakra Control: S
Chakra Pool: D


Kai:


Physical Spread
Strength: C
Speed: C
Durability: B

Chakra Spread
Ninjutsu: A
Taijutsu: B
Genjutsu: D
Chakra Control: D

 

[kyuukestu]

So I guess i’ll Be the guinea pig.



Zaku:

Chakra Control: S

*squints*

Seems suspicious.

Well, meh. There isn't even an F on the Scale though lmfao.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

*squints*

Seems suspicious.

Well, meh. There isn't even an F on the Scale though lmfao.

Well he can’t even do it so XD. Like how lee would he S in genjustu.

Zaku’s chakra control is mechanized. He can decided how much percentage of chakra would be used down to the decimals. So I say that’s pretty accurate

 

[kyuukestu]

Since D is the lowest possible level don't you have too many bad stats?

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Since D is the lowest possible level don't you have too many bad stats?

Oh well I assumed since they are genin that they should have low. I’ll edit it then

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Edited


Zaku:


Physical Spread
Strength: C
Speed: C
Durability: C

Chakra Spread
Ninjutsu: A
Taijutsu: D
Genjutsu: F
Chakra Control: S
Chakra Pool: D


Kai:


Physical Spread
Strength: C
Speed: C
Durability: B

Chakra Spread
Ninjutsu: A
Taijutsu: B
Genjutsu: D
Chakra Control: D

 

[kyuukestu]

Oh well I assumed since they are genin that they should have low. I’ll edit it then

yea, that's why I said they're base stats. Not really direct representation of their current skill levels.

It's more like the stat spread for an RPG Class.

Healer:

Magic - A
Melee - D

Warrior:

Magic - D
Melee - A

But a lvl 1 healer would probably still have less magic that a lvl 100 Warrior.

Kinda like that. So it doesn't account for their current rank.

 

[Grand Master Koop]

Shura
Physical Spread
Strength: B
Speed: A
Durability: B

Shinobi Spread
Ninjutsu: A
Taijutsu: A
Genjutsu: D
Chakra Control: C
Chakra Pool: B

Very balanced Stats all around

 

[kyuukestu]

I guess I should Clarify that by how the Rankings are set;

S - Exceptional
A - Above Average
B - Average
C - Crappy (Below Average)
D - Disasterous

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

I guess I should Clarify that by how the Rankings are set;

S - Exceptional
A - Above Average
B - Average
C - Crappy (Below Average)
D - Disasterous

Ohhh that changes everything.




Zaku:


Physical Spread
Strength: B
Speed: C
Durability: B

Chakra Spread
Ninjutsu: A
Taijutsu: D
Genjutsu: F
Chakra Control: S
Chakra Pool: D


Kai:


Physical Spread
Strength: B
Speed: B
Durability: B

Chakra Spread
Ninjutsu: S
Taijutsu: A
Genjutsu: D
Chakra Control: D

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Absurd:


Physical Spread
Strength: D
Speed: C
Durability: D

Chakra Spread
Ninjutsu: B
Taijutsu: D
Genjutsu: S
Chakra Control: A
Chakra Pool: S

 

[kyuukestu]

Sagisō

Physical Spread
Strength: D
Speed: B (A - with Wind-Shadow)
Durability: C

Shinobi Spread
Ninjutsu: A
Taijutsu: S
Genjutsu: D
Chakra Control: S
Chakra Pool: B

Furījia

Physical Spread
Strength: C
Speed: C
Durability: C

Shinobi Spread
Ninjutsu: B
Taijutsu: A
Genjutsu: D
Chakra Control: B
Chakra Pool: C

Hyōryugetsu

Physical Spread
Strength: C~S (Varies with Jutsu.)
Speed: C~A (Varies with Jutsu.)
Durability: C~S (Varies with water Volume)

Shinobi Spread
Ninjutsu: A
Taijutsu: A (Is essentially the same stat as ninjutsu.)
Genjutsu: S
Chakra Control: B
Chakra Pool: B~A (Varies with Environment. Chakra Reductions from Water Bodies.)
=============================================


Might need a few tweaks

 

[kyuukestu]

Absurd:


Physical Spread
Strength: D
Speed: C
Durability: D

Chakra Spread
Ninjutsu: B
Taijutsu: D
Genjutsu: S
Chakra Control: A
Chakra Pool: S

I expect to see like, almost full S' for Jin xD

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Sagisō

Physical Spread
Strength: D
Speed: B (A - with Wind-Shadow)
Durability: C

Shinobi Spread
Ninjutsu: A
Taijutsu: S
Genjutsu: D
Chakra Control: S
Chakra Pool: B

Furījia

Physical Spread
Strength: C
Speed: C
Durability: C

Shinobi Spread
Ninjutsu: B
Taijutsu: A
Genjutsu: D
Chakra Control: B
Chakra Pool: C

Hyōryugetsu

Physical Spread
Strength: C~S (Very variable. Ability to change the arrangement of muscles.)
Speed: B~A (Depending on Environment)
Durability: B~S

Shinobi Spread
Ninjutsu: A
Taijutsu: A (Is essentially the same stat as ninjutsu.)
Genjutsu: S
Chakra Control: B
Chakra Pool: B~A (Depending on Environment)
=============================================


Might need a few tweaks

Hyo seems unbalanced. No D’s in sight and only one C that can vary higher

 

[Retro Master]

Here’s an image on how I visualized the spread of the mark from his neck.

Obviously the color is different lel

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Here’s an image on how I visualized the spread of the mark from his neck.

Obviously the color is different lel

Mmmm! I smell drawing challenge!

 

[kyuukestu]

Hyo seems unbalanced. No D’s in sight and only one C that can vary higher

She ends up very unbalanced, which is why I have reservations in using her.

The Hydrofication jutsu kinda makes Physical stats moot because she'd be able to rearrange her musculature with Jutsu. She can also turn her body into rushing waves to increase her speed, and we've already talked about the durability granted by it.

Ninjutsu & Taijutsu are the same things to her because her body is one big ninjutsu. So instead of punching and kicking, she'll be attacking like a shapeshifter, contorting her body and turning arms into water weapons etc.

Genjutsu is her specialty...soooo...yea.

So that only leaves Chakra control and Chakra pools.

I'd have to make those Abysmal to give even the slightest sense of balance for any Hōzuki. But they get reductions from bodies of water which they can outright merge with...and yea...

I didn't really realize how OP the Hōzuki were until after I created Hyō, which is why I immediately tried to pull back on her usage.

 

[Grand Master Koop]

Shura
Physical Spread
Strength: B
Speed: A
Durability: B

Shinobi Spread
Ninjutsu: A
Taijutsu: A
Genjutsu: D
Chakra Control: B
Chakra Pool: B

Updated stats for Shura

 

[kyuukestu]

Sagisō: Can't decide if I should stall and try to outlast...or do an all-out assault to try and crush the opponent...

She wouldn't be able to straight up over-power Kiro, but at the same time, I'm not sure if I wanna play a game of waiting for the curse mark's time limit.

 

[kyuukestu]

*Opens Betting Stand*

Taking all bets on how long ya'll think Sagisō can troll Kiro for...cause I'm definitely not gonna spend the next few posts fighting him xD To hell with that.

 

[DarkHydraT]

Mori
Physical Spread
Strength: B
Speed: B
Durability: B

Shinobi Spread
Ninjutsu: B
Taijutsu: B
Genjutsu: D
Chakra Control: C
Chakra Pool: C

Not the best stats, but these seemed to be the most realistic for me.

Taji
Physical Spread
Strength: B
Speed: A
Durability: B

Shinobi Spread
Ninjutsu: B
Taijutsu: B
Genjutsu: A
Chakra Control: A
Chakra Pool: A

Not too sure about her since I haven't really used her, but given her drive to excel at everything I thought this might be the best combination of power and rank

 

[DarkHydraT]

*Opens Betting Stand*

Taking all bets on how long ya'll think Sagisō can troll Kiro for...cause I'm definitely not gonna spend the next few posts fighting him xD To hell with that.

I'd say about 10 posts, but what can I bet?