Private/Closed Naruto AU RP: discussion

[Godjacob]

Boruto is not that bad. People are way too harsh on that show for dumb reasons.

"Oh Boruto is a jerk!"

Yeah, how dare they make Boruto a different character than Naruto. What a terrible decision /s

 

[Godjacob]

Then again, Mei didn’t exactly stop the blood mist from being a thing. The most influential and powerful clan, the Yuki, amongst other followers and support, including a jinchurki are for this philosophy, she would have to do something to calm them down

Her taking over in canon kinda did stop the bloody mist. Not like they kept that policy when she took over.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

I don't get how this invasion proves Kai is "validated" at all. The target is Konoha, not any of the other leaders and what not. And it's not like a surprise attack by a rogue Sannin and his own nation necessarily proves Mei's ideology is wrong. In fact the other Kage lending a hand and helping Minato against them would prove her right that not being a nationalist jerk and having allies is a good thing.

If minato dies, a beacon of hope to mei’s ideology, plus what kai said at the end of another act of aggression would happen. He was saying that in front of the entire diplomatic caravan, it would resonate with a lot when follow through happens

 

[Godjacob]

If minato dies, a beacon of hope to mei’s ideology, plus what kai said at the end of another act of aggression would happen. He was saying that in front of the entire diplomatic caravan, it would resonate with a lot when follow through happens

An act of aggression against the Mist. Which this invasion is not focused on or targeted at. That's Kai claiming he is right based on some third-party incident.

 

[SageNeb]

We’re not getting two civil wars at the same time. Either a, we’ll do regicide and take over, or b well convince the Kiri council to listen to us instead of her.

 

[Retro Master]

Good thing Kiro will be leaving...

 

[Godjacob]

We’re not getting two civil wars at the same time. Either a, we’ll do regicide and take over, or b well convince the Kiri council to listen to us instead of her.

I just find it hard to imagine a "lunatic" like Kai getting the kind of support to overturn Mei who is pretty popular as a leader. Especially compared to who she took over from.

 

[SageNeb]

We’re also forgetting the fact that being allies with nations could lead to us getting atttack by the other nations enemies, pretty sure some Kiri Nin wouldn’t want that and will side with us. Also Bloody Mist v2 won’t happen if akatsuki comes to try and take shukaku

 

[SageNeb]

Good thing Kiro will be leaving...

Not really, it’s still the most peaceful village. Also we’re only overthrowing her once Kanshi and Kai finish their squabble, which will result in Kai winning.

 

[Retro Master]

Not really, it’s still the most peaceful village. Also we’re only overthrowing her once Kanshi and Kai finish their squabble, which will result in Kai winning.

Most peaceful village?! Lmao
But seriously tho, you’re joking right?

 

[SageNeb]

I just find it hard to imagine a "lunatic" like Kai getting the kind of support to overturn Mei who is pretty popular as a leader. Especially compared to who she took over from.

You’re forgetting Kanshi and every other supporter of their political groups. Oh and yes if Jenna doesn’t follow Kanshi he’ll just have to pull a few strings to make her defect.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

An act of aggression against the Mist. Which this invasion is not focused on or targeted at. That's Kai claiming he is right based on some third-party incident.

I just find it hard to imagine a "lunatic" like Kai getting the kind of support to overturn Mei who is pretty popular as a leader. Especially compared to who she took over from.

The thing is, Kai doesn’t have that power now. Their are only seeds of xenophobia within the mist. But when their strongest ally’s leader dies, village in chaos, and most likely Kiro ditching to join the attacking force, it’s a heavy sign, not to mention the sound will attack most everyone there, not decrimintaing between leaf and mist. Then, after that, most likely a lot of traction will be gained, as all the influential diplomats were there, odds are a lot will have changed minds

 

[SageNeb]

Most peaceful village?! Lmao
But seriously tho, you’re joking right?

Why do you think Raiku’s going there? During all this Mei is still Kage, and she’s the most peaceful one.

 

[SageNeb]

The thing is, Kai doesn’t have that power now. Their are only seeds of xenophobia within the mist. But when their strongest ally’s leader dies, village in chaos, and most likely Kiro ditching to join the attacking force, it’s a heavy sign, not to mention the sound will attack most everyone there, not decrimintaing between leaf and mist. Then, after that, most likely a lot of traction will be gained, as all the influential diplomats were there, odds are a lot will have changed minds

I think either Kai will win or Kai and Kanshi will come to a compromise.

 

[Retro Master]

Why do you think Raiku’s going there? During all this Mei is still Kage, and she’s the most peaceful one.

By the time Raiku arrives, shit might’ve hit the fan already. Even if she’s the most peaceful, a civil war could still break out...

 

[SageNeb]

I wonder if Katsuo will be Union or Confederation...

 

[Godjacob]

The thing is, Kai doesn’t have that power now. Their are only seeds of xenophobia within the mist. But when their strongest ally’s leader dies, village in chaos, and most likely Kiro ditching to join the attacking force, it’s a heavy sign, not to mention the sound will attack most everyone there, not decrimintaing between leaf and mist. Then, after that, most likely a lot of traction will be gained, as all the influential diplomats were there, odds are a lot will have changed minds

Seems like quite the jump to make in my opinion. Kai's policy would weaken Kiri all the more, especially if the Akatsuki come for the tailed beast and they had no allies to come to for aid. A nation that has gone through multiple civil wars doesn't just shift to "Elect me cause I hate all foreigners."

And Mei has already improved things compared to the Bloody Mist days, which Kai's policy seems to want to bring back which would not give him majority support. Just saying Kai could be less over emotional and more subtle if he wants to change minds and gain support.

 

[SageNeb]

By the time Raiku arrives, shit might’ve hit the fan already. Even if she’s the most peaceful, a civil war could still break out...

Why would there be a civil war? Also he’ll be there during Konoha’s civil war when it’s noticeable that the confederation is losing. And Kanshi v Kai won’t happen till after it ends, by which then raiku will have left. Also I fail to see how Orochimaru is better xD

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Why do you think Raiku’s going there? During all this Mei is still Kage, and she’s the most peaceful one.

Seems like quite the jump to make in my opinion. Kai's policy would weaken Kiri all the more, especially if the Akatsuki come for the tailed beast and they had no allies to come to for aid. A nation that has gone through multiple civil wars doesn't just shift to "Elect me cause I hate all foreigners."

And Mei has already improved things compared to the Bloody Mist days, which Kai's policy seems to want to bring back which would not give him majority support. Just saying Kai could be less over emotional and more subtle if he wants to change minds and gain support.

They don’t know the Akatsuki is a thing really, and are after the tailed beasts. And Kai is young, so he’s going to be emotional compared to adults. He’ll Get more mature as time goes, and the change in the mist (of either faction) won’t be immediate. These things take time

 

[SageNeb]

And Mei has already improved things compared to the Bloody Mist days, which Kai's policy seems to want to bring back which would not give him majority support. Just saying Kai could be less over emotional and more subtle if he wants to change minds and gain support.

Kai just wants Kiri to be left alone during the war and for Mei to be gone since she’s too pacifistic and doesn’t care if people attack her village members or insult their village which I’m sure a lot of people will agree with. Also you guys are all forgetting that this is after Kanshi gets support, and both of their forces combined are over half Kiri’s Ninja I think

 

[Retro Master]

Why would there be a civil war?

Um... We’re talking about the Mist, right?

 

[Godjacob]

Kai just wants Kiri to be left alone during the war and for Mei to be left since she’s too pacifistic and doesn’t care if people attack her village members or insult their village which I’m sure a lot of people will agree with.

Mei doesn't believe that. And again, Kai started that fight quite clearly so it was a self-defense act (Katsuo didn't even plan to use the bomb or fight at first. He just gave his opinion.)

and the change in the mist (of either faction) won’t be immediate. These things take time

I agree with this.

 

[Retro Master]

Oh shit, I think I got Nebby mad... he didn’t like my post

 

[SageNeb]

OK first of all, nobody cares what Mei thinks, what does that have to do with this? Not trying to be rude, I’m actually curious. Second of all, you still ignore the fact that there’s a lot of people that actually wants their leader to care when somebody insults their village, how’d you like it if somebody just insulted you and the person that you work for doesn’t care?

 

[SageNeb]

Oh shit, I think I got Nebby mad... he didn’t like my post

Y’all don’t wanna see me when I’m mad. Also YES WERE TAKKING ABOUT MIST

 

[Godjacob]

OK first of all, nobody cares what Mei thinks, what does that have to do with this? Not trying to be rude, I’m actually curious. Second of all, you still ignore the fact that there’s a lot of people that actually wants their leader to care when somebody insults their village, how’d you like it if somebody just insulted you and the person that you work for doesn’t care?

Okay, calm down XD. I'm sorry.

I get the idea and I am not saying it is impossible for Kai to get support. Though again this fight began with Katsuo just saying you shouldn't look down on others based on their national origins. Hardly an insult to Kiri.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Let I remind you even hitler was elected

 

[SageNeb]

I’m a mad boi. I ain’t calming down till I get my baby bottle. Also retro that post made me laugh so hard xD
“Uh oh, he didn’t like my post” also I’m sorry I didn’t see it because of jacob

 

[kyuukestu]

Let I remind you even hitler was elected

Uhuh, and it'd follow the same series of events that'd end with the Mist battered, beaten, and broken.


Oh, that's if they're lucky enough to have not been outright wiped off the face of the ninja world. Ninja's seem to be pretty thorough about their business, they try to kill every last member of whatever group they're attacking. Case in point every ninja clan that was exterminated.

 

[SageNeb]

Uhuh, and it'd follow the same series of events that'd end with the Mist battered, beaten, and broken.


Oh, that's if they're lucky enough to have not been outright wiped off the face of the ninja world. Ninja's seem to be pretty thorough about their business, they try to kill every last member of whatever group they're attacking. Case in point every ninja clan that was exterminated.

Are you saying... Jenna should be the next Mizukage?

 

[Retro Master]

Once Kiro learns how Xenophobic Kai really is, Kai will lose a lot of Kiro’s respect.

 

[kyuukestu]

Are you saying... Jenna should be the next Mizukage?

No, you'd probably end up in the same place. Either destroyed or invaded.

Being overly pacifistic will make you seem weak and you will get destroyed because of that. Being overly antagonistic will similarly get you destroyed.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Uhuh, and it'd follow the same series of events that'd end with the Mist battered, beaten, and broken.


Oh, that's if they're lucky enough to have not been outright wiped off the face of the ninja world. Ninja's seem to be pretty thorough about their business, they try to kill every last member of whatever group they're attacking. Case in point every ninja clan that was exterminated.

We’ll see what happens now, won’t we?

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Once Kiro learns how Xenophobic Kai really is, Kai will lose a lot of Kiro’s respect.

If he’s going to be a traitor anyway, he’s one to talk

 

[SageNeb]

I personally think that Kai would suck as Kage, this should be obvious. If Mei stays then she’s too pacifistic. Kanshi is le perfect way for it to prosper. Also Pain and Azumi will lead to even more destruction for ame

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Kai doesn’t like being in the spotlight. He works behind the scenes, occasionally rebel rousing

 

[Retro Master]

Oml, can we just start the next round already. It was supposed to start this weekend.

 

[SageNeb]

Still waiting for zcraft

 

[Godjacob]

May I ask why Mei is called too much of a pacifist? She's only just trying not to have a pair of young highly emotional ninja of her people start fights on one of her allies nations for petty reasons.

I get by comparison to Kai she is considered more pacifist in nature, but she is not spineless and allows the other nations to walk all over her. Hell she got Kiri out of the bloody mist on her own with no outside support.

 

[SageNeb]

You really want a list of why Mei sucks? REALLY?