Private/Closed Fiction Crossover

[StormingCobra]

Oh. I never noticed that. When did that happen?

 

[comic]

anyway, i'm sticking with Team Sysris. it has a nice ring to it, being put into a word and all.

Oh. I never noticed that. When did that happen?

a little while ago.

 

[comic]

also, cobra, i am still waiting on your replies with Team Negan.
Vader, Bowser and Sawyer make up almost half that group and they're just sitting around looking pretty.
also, before anyone says anything, Team Negan is a valid name.
considering he's their defacto leader.

 

[StormingCobra]

At the same time, Stark and Nathan are basically the leaders of their groups.

And also, what exactly are Vader and Bowser supposed to do until they arrive... wherever they’re going? I was never actually told where they’re gonna land. Making it hard to respond with Sawyer as well. Kinda need to know where to land so I can land.

 

[comic]

At the same time, Stark and Nathan are basically the leaders of their groups.

And also, what exactly are Vader and Bowser supposed to do until they arrive... wherever they’re going? I was never actually told where they’re gonna land. Making it hard to respond with Sawyer as well. Kinda need to know where to land so I can land.

they're just headed down. Marseille is below. they might actually merge with the whole Specter plot, now that i think about it.

 

[StormingCobra]

Which side of the fray would they be on? Hiro and Co. or Specter’s allies?

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Which side of the fray would they be on? Hiro and Co. or Specter’s allies?

Hmmmm considering bowser’s history of joining forces with baddies, I’d say specter’s side

 

[comic]

Hmmmm considering bowser’s history of joining forces with baddies, I’d say specter’s side

but then there's the fact of Negan, Azula, Sawyer, and Vader being human.
alongside this, Specter would obviously try to take control.
and Negan would definitely put a stop to that.
and i'd personally say, alongside the symbiote, Negan could probably go toe-to-toe with Specter 1v1, let alone a whole gang vs two dudes.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

but then there's the fact of Negan, Azula, Sawyer, and Vader being human.
alongside this, Specter would obviously try to take control.
and Negan would definitely put a stop to that.
and i'd personally say, alongside the symbiote, Negan could probably go toe-to-toe with Specter 1v1, let alone a whole gang vs two dudes.

Eh, specter would most likely be stronger than negan. Considering all the crazy things he can do. (Or just emit a loud noise that his primary attack does anyway)

Besides, he doesn’t know who Vader is species wise underneath all of the get-up.

 

[Godjacob]

I swear all these angles turn into "Why Character X can beat Specter and no why Specter can beat Character X" back and fourths.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

I swear all these angles turn into "Why Character X can beat Specter and no why Specter can beat Character X" back and fourths.

I don’t know why it keeps devolving to that, to be honest. I guess he’s just a magnet for that sort of thing

 

[Godjacob]

I don’t know why it keeps devolving to that, to be honest. I guess he’s just a magnet for that sort of thing

Probably because you wanked Specter to begin with, then everyone else wanked up their characters to say they could solo Specter. It turns into a wank fest XD

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Probably because you wanked Specter to begin with, then everyone else wanked up their characters to say they could solo Specter. It turns into a wank fest XD

That sounds...disgusting

Also, I’m just going by the source material. I’m not buffing him or anything

 

[Godjacob]

That sounds...disgusting

Also, I’m just going by the source material. I’m not buffing him or anything

Eh, it's dubious and naturally there is suspected buffing accusations given personal bias. After all, the logic being from others, if a kid with a net (Or some monkies in balls, forget which) can beat Specter why can't character X? Kinda thing.

And using source materiel without certain modifications isn't always a good thing for a Rp...*Thinks to the Archie Comics*

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Eh, it's dubious and naturally there is suspected buffing accusations given personal bias. After all, the logic being from others, if a kid with a net (Or some monkies in balls, forget which) can beat Specter why can't character X? Kinda thing.

And using source materiel without certain modifications isn't always a good thing for a Rp...*Thinks to the Archie Comics*

Oh I’m going purely on games. And never has he ever been beaten by purely a net. 90% of the time it’s using powerful beams, hitting him several SEVERAL times with a taser sword, shooting explosives his way, and detonating high volatile substances all around him. Amongst other things. He is usually invulnerable to attacks otherwise in the games

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

And according to PlayStation all stars, said kid can 1v1 with Kratos. (Obvious joke, not serious)

 

[Godjacob]

Oh I’m going purely on games. And never has he ever been beaten by purely a net. 90% of the time it’s using powerful beams, hitting him several SEVERAL times with a taser sword, shooting explosives his way, and detonating high volatile substances all around him. Amongst other things. He is usually invulnerable to attacks otherwise in the games

Just saying, it is kinda a leap to go from losing to that to say claiming he can solo a group of our characters pretty cleanly. Which is where Eevee and Comic had taken exception.

And it leads to this. Honestly my view I think Negan/Bowser/Azula's group joining the Specter plot crams too many villains at once.

And according to PlayStation all stars, said kid can 1v1 with Kratos. (Obvious joke, not serious)

Wii Fit Trainer>all confirmed don't @ me XD

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Just saying, it is kinda a leap to go from losing to that to say claiming he can solo a group of our characters pretty cleanly. Which is where Eevee and Comic had taken exception.

In fact, specter has quite easily smites most people to go in his path (including four previous people who tried the same powerful gadgets as what beat him before) the only times he usually goes out is if he wants to, or if he is just overwhelmed with firepower.

In fact, they even explained his abilities even further when he became a playable character

And it leads to this. Honestly my view I think Negan/Bowser/Azula's group joining the Specter plot crams too many villains at once.

Yeah, perhaps agreed there.

 

[Godjacob]

In fact, specter has quite easily smites most people to go in his path (including four previous people who tried the same powerful gadgets as what beat him before) the only times he usually goes out is if he wants to, or if he is just overwhelmed with firepower.

In fact, they even explained his abilities even further when he became a playable character

Okay saying stuff like this is the reason Eevee and Comic have it out for Specter XD

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Okay saying stuff like this is the reason Eevee and Comic have it out for Specter XD

Hm? I’m not sure why it would. He’s supposed to be a villain after all, one that was introduced to be a challenge. Wouldn’t be a challenge if he were made of paper mache would it?

 

[Godjacob]

Hm? I’m not sure why it would. He’s supposed to be a villain after all, one that was introduced to be a challenge. Wouldn’t be a challenge if he were made of paper mache would it?

Nah, but the idea is that you go the full 180 opposite direction and write him up as a villain sue by comparison. If Eevee and Comic are guilty of treating Specter like dirt unfairly (They are) you are guilty of this. No offense.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Nah, but the idea is that you go the full 180 opposite direction and write him up as a villain sue by comparison. If Eevee and Comic are guilty of treating Specter like dirt unfairly (They are) you are guilty of this. No offense.

Never said he was invincible. I just defend him and then he’s automatically labeled a villain sue. He’s never fought a saiyan, hell slayer, specialty robots, a keyblade master, and etc at the same time before you know XD. Specter relies on his creations so he doesn’t have to do it personally, which is his primary strongsuit. So, his powers Alone could not solo the entire group of people we have assembled to fight him

 

[Godjacob]

Never said he was invincible. I just defend him and then he’s automatically labeled a villain sue. He’s never fought a saiyan, hell slayer, specialty robots, a keyblade master, and etc at the same time before you know XD. Specter relies on his creations so he doesn’t have to do it personally, which is his primary strongsuit. So, his powers Alone could not solo the entire group of people we have assembled to fight him

See, this is an fair view of things.

In fact, specter has quite easily smites most people to go in his path (including four previous people who tried the same powerful gadgets as what beat him before) the only times he usually goes out is if he wants to, or if he is just overwhelmed with firepower.

This, is not just defending the guy as competent. It goes the extra mile.

 

[Godjacob]

With all that said, even if I think it is villain overcrowding, I honestly don't know what else to do with the villain characters on the airship given that Cloudswift is MIA and that plot is scrapped for now. So it might be the only option.

Just need a way for them to compliment each other rather than making this little plot overly stuffed.

 

[comic]

Eh, specter would most likely be stronger than negan. Considering all the crazy things he can do. (Or just emit a loud noise that his primary attack does anyway)

Besides, he doesn’t know who Vader is species wise underneath all of the get-up.

...
i wonder how he could figure that out... hm...
oh, right.
he could just assume he's a human, like he did with Doomslayer and Master Chief.
or do a random, convenient scan, like he did with Kale.

 

[comic]

buuut, in defense of Specter, Darth Vader is more android than he is human anymore, meaning Specter could easily see him as a cyborg, which he basically is.
and as for Master Chief, due to the augmentation, don't you think his genetics would look drastically different, and superior, to that of a normal humans? i mean, he appears human underneath the armor, but the Covenant assumed the demons were an entire other species supporting the humans because of how superior the Spartans were to normal people.
and John has been confused with cyborgs and AI or questioned to be them before. both on an emotional and physical level.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

...
i wonder how he could figure that out... hm...
oh, right.
he could just assume he's a human, like he did with Doomslayer and Master Chief.
or do a random, convenient scan, like he did with Kale.

He’d scan whenever he could, but even then could confuse him with an unknown species because of midichlorians

Besides he figured they were human because they were humanoid with human tech level weaponry fighting alongside humans. Vader is fighting alongside bowser, which isn’t human

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

buuut, in defense of Specter, Darth Vader is more android than he is human anymore, meaning Specter could easily see him as a cyborg, which he basically is.
and as for Master Chief, due to the augmentation, don't you think his genetics would look drastically different, and superior, to that of a normal humans? i mean, he appears human underneath the armor, but the Covenant assumed the demons were an entire other species supporting the humans because of how superior the Spartans were to normal people.
and John has been confused with cyborgs and AI or questioned to be them before. both on an emotional and physical level.

As far as 117 is concerned, specter doesn’t really care as much, as he already opens fired upon him several times. He just sees him as an obstacle to he eliminated, regardless of his race. (Unless he is a simian). Although he assumed he was human after rolling out with a team of mostly humans

 

[Godjacob]

Between Kai and Specter, I feel Shen is honestly a character away from going full Frieza.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Between Kai and Specter, I feel Shen is honestly a character away from going full Frieza.

Hahahahahaha

Gold. Just gold. XD

Kai is just flat out racist. Specter is getting revenge upon his own species being enslaved by enslaving his previous masters

 

[BurbleBurble]

Hmmmm considering bowser’s history of joining forces with baddies, I’d say specter’s side

Yes, maybe Bowser, who is a clear cut giant turtle would join Specter, but I'd say everyone else except maybe Greivious would be hard against the enslavement of humanity.

Kai is just flat out racist. Specter is getting revenge upon his own species being enslaved by enslaving his previous masters

Except before hand Specter was perfectly content. He's being possessed by the helmet essentially. He states he misses his own trainer in the first game from my research. Honestly this whole "enslavement" thing is just a way to justify his tyrannic ideals. Yeah, humans are bastards but Specter's actions make him no better.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Yes, maybe Bowser, who is a clear cut giant turtle would join Specter, but I'd say everyone else except maybe Greivious would be hard against the enslavement of humanity.

Except before hand Specter was perfectly content. He's being possessed by the helmet essentially. He states he misses his own trainer in the first game from my research. Honestly this whole "enslavement" thing is just a way to justify his tyrannic ideals. Yeah, humans are bastards but Specter's actions make him no better.

Hmmm good point with that first one. Bowser and grevious, I think they could be quite a good addition to his army...!

After the first one however he personally modifies his helmet, never speaking of his trainer ever again. Although your not wrong about the helmet being most of Specter, a parasite almost. A parasite he craves interestingly enough. He often does use a noble cause to justify terrible deeds, but does genuinely care for his kind, as he isn’t just a merciless ruler. He cares for all of his species, and is just taking all the mistreatment of his mind out on humanity

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

Except before hand Specter was perfectly content. He's being possessed by the helmet essentially. He states he misses his own trainer in the first game from my research.

Also, I’d compare this to having a very kind master, even though your a slave. Sure you can respect the master, but not respect the situation. So specter himself just has fonder memories of his past than the rest of his breathern (although he won’t admit it out loud) but he still fights for their freedom and their enslaver’s enslavemnet

 

[comic]

Hmmm good point with that first one. Bowser and grevious, I think they could be quite a good addition to his army...!

After the first one however he personally modifies his helmet, never speaking of his trainer ever again. Although your not wrong about the helmet being most of Specter, a parasite almost. A parasite he craves interestingly enough. He often does use a noble cause to justify terrible deeds, but does genuinely care for his kind, as he isn’t just a merciless ruler. He cares for all of his species, and is just taking all the mistreatment of his mind out on humanity

and you guys called Negan just a psychotic sociopath. maybe not you, Shen, since i don't think you were involved in that argument.
but Negan is way more than what the surface reveals. Shen's example of Specter reminded me of Negan, who actually cares about the people who work for him. Negan believes he's the only person who can save them.
but obviously he has flaws as a leader. he's extremely strict, and doesn't take any type of betrayal well. in one instance, when one of Negan's wives tried to get back with her husband (it's complicated), Negan found out, and as punishment for the man, put a hot iron to his face.
Negan is brutal and a totalitarian tyrant, but he does care about the people loyal to him, and gives them anything they need and want, enforcing their loyalty to him.
he's also rather inconsiderate, though this is mostly on purpose so as to push people's buttons. Negan is highly charismatic, and extremely good at figuring people out. he's so good at that, you might think he was a specialist in psychology.
he uses psychological torture to convert people to his cause, as he tried with Daryl, though Daryl managed to escape before Negan managed to fully warp his mind.
Negan is also highly against rape and any type of mental, physical, or sexual abuse towards women. he has a high respect towards women, and hates the idea of killing them.
sorry i've been ranting about Negan for so long, but i don't think i ever fully explained what his deal is, so just... putting that out there, now.

 

[Shen: King of Digimon]

and you guys called Negan just a psychotic sociopath. maybe not you, Shen, since i don't think you were involved in that argument.
but Negan is way more than what the surface reveals. Shen's example of Specter reminded me of Negan, who actually cares about the people who work for him. Negan believes he's the only person who can save them.
but obviously he has flaws as a leader. he's extremely strict, and doesn't take any type of betrayal well. in one instance, when one of Negan's wives tried to get back with her husband (it's complicated), Negan found out, and as punishment for the man, put a hot iron to his face.
Negan is brutal and a totalitarian tyrant, but he does care about the people loyal to him, and gives them anything they need and want, enforcing their loyalty to him.
he's also rather inconsiderate, though this is mostly on purpose so as to push people's buttons. Negan is highly charismatic, and extremely good at figuring people out. he's so good at that, you might think he was a specialist in psychology.
he uses psychological torture to convert people to his cause, as he tried with Daryl, though Daryl managed to escape before Negan managed to fully warp his mind.
Negan is also highly against rape and any type of mental, physical, or sexual abuse towards women. he has a high respect towards women, and hates the idea of killing them.
sorry i've been ranting about Negan for so long, but i don't think i ever fully explained what his deal is, so just... putting that out there, now.

Huh. I’m glad to hear more detail on negan, it makes him seem more like a well rounded character. The way you layed him out make him sound like he’d get along well with specter. Well...besides the whole enslavment thing...

 

[comic]

@BurbleBurble
could you tell me the names of those characters in Goldenwalk you already introduced?
@Eeveechu151
same to you. the people in fenrir.

 

[Mechanist Gamma]

No one in Fenrir is important yet, but when I do introduce important people I'll give you their names. Lenka was named once, and Alisa and Kota said things in the Fenrir post.

 

[Godjacob]

and you guys called Negan just a psychotic sociopath. maybe not you, Shen, since i don't think you were involved in that argument.
but Negan is way more than what the surface reveals. Shen's example of Specter reminded me of Negan, who actually cares about the people who work for him. Negan believes he's the only person who can save them.
but obviously he has flaws as a leader. he's extremely strict, and doesn't take any type of betrayal well. in one instance, when one of Negan's wives tried to get back with her husband (it's complicated), Negan found out, and as punishment for the man, put a hot iron to his face.
Negan is brutal and a totalitarian tyrant, but he does care about the people loyal to him, and gives them anything they need and want, enforcing their loyalty to him.
he's also rather inconsiderate, though this is mostly on purpose so as to push people's buttons. Negan is highly charismatic, and extremely good at figuring people out. he's so good at that, you might think he was a specialist in psychology.
he uses psychological torture to convert people to his cause, as he tried with Daryl, though Daryl managed to escape before Negan managed to fully warp his mind.
Negan is also highly against rape and any type of mental, physical, or sexual abuse towards women. he has a high respect towards women, and hates the idea of killing them.
sorry i've been ranting about Negan for so long, but i don't think i ever fully explained what his deal is, so just... putting that out there, now.

I still think he is just a psychopath. Being "nice" to your underlings does not change this fact.

He is not a bad character and has some layers to him, but I would not give him the sympathetic villain label either. But that is just my opinion, nothing more nothing less.

 

[comic]

No one in Fenrir is important yet, but when I do introduce important people I'll give you their names. Lenka was named once, and Alisa and Kota said things in the Fenrir post.

thanks.

 

[BurbleBurble]

could you tell me the names of those characters in Goldenwalk you already introduced?

Sure, there's Priscilla, Thunderhead (Sarah) and the Grey Knight (Kiran). But at the moment, there's only Priscilla and the unnamed robbers in Goldenwalk.

Post coming soon. Lightning will strike. It's a biggie.

Also, I’d compare this to having a very kind master, even though your a slave. Sure you can respect the master, but not respect the situation. So specter himself just has fonder memories of his past than the rest of his breathern (although he won’t admit it out loud) but he still fights for their freedom and their enslaver’s enslavemnet

Still, this "revenge" is ultimately pointless. It's a human society, except now with monkeys and apes. Also, I wouldn't really compare monkeys given shelter, food, and enjoying their life to any sort of enslavement. While monkeys were indeed used in that park, enslavement is a faaar cry from it. I'm not saying we don't do shitty things to animals (Testing labs are a big one, luckily most are being closed or getting more heavily enforced) It's short sighted, and I think to an extent Specter understood that- because he stopped the whole enslavement thing and just tried to split the earth in half in 3, the current final installment, probably killing a good number of people.

And yes, we understand, in many a situation, Specter has outwitted the populace. He did such by quick takeover. But here? He set up one relatively small factory and he's acting like he's won already. No, he landed in a future where he could easily be razed by plasma. Even if Doomslayer, Hiro, Kale, the Chief, the Hunter, and the Robot Masters fail (Which is unlikely!)...He's made an enemy of two very advanced countries. I'm not saying to let Specter lay down his weapons and surrender- I just think your grossly overestimating him. I said this already and I say it again, a handful of kids (With little to no training) could stop him before, no matter how well equipped they are (And at a far bigger disadvantage!) it's ridiculous that you think a handful of super soldiers, a super saiyan, and a few slightly above average humans can't do it, that's just silly.